Shin Akuma versus Hulk

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Did you read what i said before??? The hulk does not need Banner to continue living, of course this makes him just like Doomsday, he would run around killing anything in sight, as he would have no mind to control his body. Stop it with this soul rip shyt, it would work on loads of guys, but not on the Hulk.

I'll say it one more time, the Hulk has lived without Banner being in his body on two seperate occassions, Onslaught incident and way back when he fought both teams of Avengers.

He does not need a soul to continue living.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
so are you saying the hulk is a ghost or possesses his own soul separate from banner's? or he lacks a soul or doesn't need one?

in essence, Hulk and Banner retain cognizance and can act/think in a manner similar to how the do when one, but both feel 'less than whole' when in this state.

but all this is unnecessary as Akuma would never be able to even launch an elaborate attack on Hulk using magic. Hulk has great speed (surpassing escape velocity) and can physically combat magic.

How well did Dr Strange do against WWH?

I think SF/MK characters shouldn't be allowed is the VS forms.

The fanboys will overly amp them up and claim feats that the comic book fan like myself knows nothing about. You almost have to be the oddball comic book person to follow SF comics unless they use SF anime as feats, which is not allowed here.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
How well did Dr Strange do against WWH?

after Strange got pissed off at this, he channelled a fraction of the power of ZOM, which might have been a tiny bit OTT but... anyway... they went at it. Zom/Strange dished out as much fury and vengeance as he could muster, to nil effect ... basically it was like punching a sandbag, the effects aren't permanent, until Zom/Strange got out of control and nearly killed some bystanders. at which point Hulk saved the innocents and then took his chance to counter attack. 3 punches and Zom/Strange was at death's door. the Zomling essence escaped from Strange and Strange was captured.

later Cho and Strange's man talk about the Zomling essence and seek to capture it before it possesses a body and begins trying to reform/channel the rest of itself. but seeing as Strange was channeling the power of Zom (well a fraction thereof), and had spent it in the battle ... it was pretty weak.

In other word Dr Strange lost using magic.

So how can Akuma's magic even hurt WWH?

Reading some you your posts easily convinces me that Hulk wins this.
Good debating!

Originally posted by h1a8
Reading some you your posts easily convinces me that Hulk wins this.
Good debating!

Who mine?

Bringing up the Mephisto vs. Hulk fight is a sign of desperation. Mephisto is both a notorious jobber, and also someone who deliberately throws fights.

He admitted that he threw that fight against Hulk.

2nd, Breaking Strange's hands is complete horseshit.

well argued, very persuasive use of facts ... 😕.

how about Hulk ripping off Nightmare's head, or terrifying Nightmare in his own domain?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Bringing up the Mephisto vs. Hulk fight is a sign of desperation. Mephisto is both a notorious jobber, and also someone who deliberately throws fights.

He admitted that he threw that fight against Hulk.

2nd, Breaking Strange's hands is complete horseshit.

It's not horseshit, Hulk has a long history of affecting astral forms, it's just that you don't know the character well enough to see that's part of his powerset. 🙄

whats this talk of astral forms...hulk still can't defend the raging demon,
try to debunk that if you can.

Could Akuma survive a punch from Hulk?

I know he has nice durability as seen when he stands deep underwater before kicking the crap out of a tanker, but...is it Hulk surviving durability?

And about the ragin' demon: who says those demons would even tickle the Hulk?

IMO chances are Hulk beats the crap out of those demons and then shouts "Hulk SMASH" before continuing the match.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Could Akuma survive a punch from Hulk?

I know he has nice durability as seen when he stands deep underwater before kicking the crap out of a tanker, but...is it Hulk surviving durability?

And about the ragin' demon: who says those demons would even tickle the Hulk?

IMO chances are Hulk beats the crap out of those demons and then shouts "Hulk SMASH" before continuing the match.

japanese artists depict the soul as a small wisp of smoke or
light that looks like a distant star.

an astral form(i think this is what you are getting at) in american comics are said to be the "sheaths of the soul".
this means that one can be very alive apart from one's astral form for example, prof. X doing battle on the astral plane and leaving his body behind. I know very well that the hulk can touch astral forms but that is a different and irrelevant matter altogether.

what i mean is his soul is not coming back once taken from him unless an adam warlock(with soul gem) or dr.strange(with more effort in his case) retrieve and repair it somehow.

the battle will be long over before that comes to play, even if getting his soul back is possible.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
his soul can't punch.

japanese artists depict the soul as a small wisp of smoke or
light that looks like a distant star.

an astral form(i think this is what you are getting at) in american comics are said to be the "sheaths of the soul".
this means that one can be very alive apart from one's astral form for example, prof. X doing battle on the astral plane and leaving his body behind. I know very well that the hulk can touch astral forms but that is a different and irrelevant matter altogether.

what i mean is his soul is not coming back once taken from him unless an adam warlock(with soul gem) or dr.strange(with more effort in his case) retrieve and repair it somehow.

the battle will be long over before that comes to play, even if getting his soul back is possible.

From the beginning of this thread, till now you, and a couple others are the only ones that truly believe Akuma would win this fight.

Perhaps it should have been left up to a poll. The very fact that Akuma only has one move that could possibly fail against Hulk shows that the odds of him winning are few.

Like others have stated in this thread the Hulk mystical defenses and has shown as much on panel.

The mere fact that the Shun Goku Satsu (Raging Demon) would leave Akuma spent and vulnerable was never mentioned by you. What if it did not work on the Hulk? What then?

Here read this
"Akuma and his brother Gouken were students of Goutetsu. Goutetsu taught a life-threatening martial art called Ansatsuken (Assassin Fist), which incorporates elements of karate, judo, and kempo. He also taught Shun Goku Satsu (literally Instant Hell Murder or The Raging Demon), a death technique which, although incredibly powerful, puts the user in considerable danger".

Taking this into consideration, Akuma may think twice about using such a potent move on the Hulk, because it would leave him in check.

from what i hear the danger is akuma loosing more of his humanity the more he performs it.

his only danger is someone like ryu learning the move then doing it on him, his sins are multiplied by several magnitudes for becoming a true demon. then in hell, he will get the ultimate punishment.

food for thought

Originally posted by psycho gundam
food for thought

Not really, he isn't gonna win in a strength match up.

sure but. destructive power is equal

No it's not, Hulk destroyed a asteroid larger than the Earth.