WWH vs Hollywood

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well it was impressive but he only got hit once by Dorammu and that was a backhand. What was impressive was that he wasnt killed and actually managed to have a short scuffle.

He also beatdown a guy called Overkill who almost beat Firelord to death and survived a blast that destroyed a solar system, its just pissed him off.

Based upon what you have said it sounds like Hollywood would take the vast majority here.

Anybody have scans or a respect thread for Hollywood?

Originally posted by Kutulu
Based upon what you have said it sounds like Hollywood would take the vast majority here.

Anybody have scans or a respect thread for Hollywood?

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,99947.0.html

Is that who your talking about?

Originally posted by Kutulu
Based upon what you have said it sounds like Hollywood would take the vast majority here.

Anybody have scans or a respect thread for Hollywood?

For some reason herochat have got rid of all the respect threads. 🙁

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
For some reason herochat have got rid of all the respect threads. 🙁

Look at the link after you sign up.

Weird. I signed in and clicked on the link, and it tells me it's missing or off limits to me.

hollywood from gotg??

wwh. no doubt about it. some overrating going on in this and in some other threads . . . sbp MURDERS hollywood . . .

and not sure who said dormmamu is 'eternity' level, but that's so far wrong as to be comical. at standard levels, he's only skyfather level, at best. pis and plot devices are needed to get him above that level, and hercules of the future literally KO'd zeus, who is a skyfather. thor battled zeus for MONTHS. trading blows with a skyfather isn't all that.

wwh hulk 10/10

Originally posted by leonidas
hollywood from gotg??

wwh. no doubt about it. some overrating going on in this and in some other threads . . . sbp MURDERS hollywood . . .

Hollywood with PG......

Originally posted by leonidas

and not sure who said dormmamu is 'eternity' level, but that's so far wrong as to be comical. at standard levels, he's only skyfather level, at best. pis and plot devices are needed to get him above that level, and hercules of the future literally KO'd zeus, who is a skyfather. thor battled zeus for MONTHS. trading blows with a skyfather isn't all that.

wwh hulk 10/10

Bro I think there cirumstances to that for example Zeus was playing with Thor I dont know what the other cirumstance was but since there is a reason for Thor vs Zeus we could assume the other cirumstance is PIS.

Wrong thread.

Originally posted by leonidas
hollywood from gotg??

wwh. no doubt about it. some overrating going on in this and in some other threads . . . sbp MURDERS hollywood . . .

and not sure who said dormmamu is 'eternity' level, but that's so far wrong as to be comical. at standard levels, he's only skyfather level, at best. pis and plot devices are needed to get him above that level, and hercules of the future literally KO'd zeus, who is a skyfather. thor battled zeus for MONTHS. trading blows with a skyfather isn't all that.

wwh hulk 10/10

Zeus noted that he purposely did not knock out Thor.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hollywood with PG......

Bro I think there cirumstances to that for example Zeus was playing with Thor I dont know what the other cirumstance was but since there is a reason for Thor vs Zeus we could assume the other cirumstance is PIS.

Wrong thread.

several people in that OTHER thread said hollywood WITHOUT the gem could take prime a few times out of 10.

ridiculous. i mentioned it because i can't believe how he's suddenly being overrated.

and i'm well aware that zeus was not going all out, yet it is still relevent. thor DID press zeus in that battle. more relevent maybe that photon actually injured zeus (moreso than any mortal had ever done, according to thor) in a battle. the overall point is, hurting and matching a skyfather for a little while is not as impressive as some say, and hollywood really didn't DO anything to dormmy in any event. he hit him from behind, punched him a couple times then got cast aside like chaff. hell, 'classic' wonderman's showing against korvac was more impressive.

no 'other circumstances' to herc ko'ing zeus. he was pissed and pretty much just knocked his ass out.

wwh 10/10

Wonder Man is not ever beating Hulk. Ever.

Originally posted by leonidas
several people in that OTHER thread said hollywood WITHOUT the gem could take prime.

ridiculous. i mentioned it because i can't believe how he's suddenly being overrated.

Ok but that wasnt me just so you know.

Originally posted by leonidas

and i'm well aware that zeus was not going all out, yet it is still relevent. thor DID press zeus in that battle. more relevent maybe that photon actually injured zeus (moreso than any mortal had ever done, according to thor) in a battle. the overall point is, hurting and matching a skyfather for a little while is not as impressive as some say, and hollywood really didn't DO anything to dormmy in any event. he hit him from behind, punched him a couple times then got cast aside like chaff. hell, 'classic' wonderman's showing against korvac was more impressive.

no 'other circumstances' to herc ko'ing zeus. he was pissed and pretty much just knocked his ass out.

wwh 10/10

1. How do you know Thor pressed Zeus, when Zeus was the one letting it happen.
2. Hollywood didnt do anything to Dormy but the fact that Dorammuw as actually having to dodge his punches shows you how tough Hollywood is and he actually survived the blow from Dorammu. Korvac killed Wonder Man.
3. Until you can prove to me that Thor pressed Zeus im counting Herc Koing Zeus as PIS or a low showing. 😐

Originally posted by leonidas
several people in that OTHER thread said hollywood WITHOUT the gem could take prime a few times out of 10.

ridiculous. i mentioned it because i can't believe how he's suddenly being overrated.

What makes you think this?

Never read Hollywood but id he is as powerful as people say he wins.

Originally posted by leonidas
and i'm well aware that zeus was not going all out, yet it is still relevent. thor DID press zeus in that battle.

Zeus purposely didn't knock out Thor because he wanted to see how long he could press his offense.

That's a big Thor feat, to keep going for three months, but it's definitely not a low feat for Zeus.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok but that wasnt me just so you know.

1. How do you know Thor pressed Zeus, when Zeus was the one letting it happen.
2. Hollywood didnt do anything to Dormy but the fact that Dorammuw as actually having to dodge his punches shows you how tough Hollywood is and he actually survived the blow from Dorammu. Korvac killed Wonder Man.
3. Until you can prove to me that Thor pressed Zeus im counting Herc Koing Zeus as PIS or a low showing. 😐

the whole, zeus-let-it-happen, and zeus-wasn't-going-all-out line is a bit misleading. zeus implies at the start that he is INCAPABLE of killing thor, because of thor's destiny at ragnarok.

http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor1cx5.jpg

as far as thor pressing zeus in that battle, there is no question about it:

http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor2yi9.jpg

"BOTH" wracked with searing pain . . . but more clearly:

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor3xd4.jpg

pretty clear that thor made zeus work REALLY hard. zeus was po'd thor was going against his ruling to stay away from the battle of troy. thor thought the olympians were going to attack asgard. there really wasn't any 'delaying' tactics in the fight. they fought, thor did very well against him.

dormmy could have killed hollywood as well, same as korvac. korvac was considered a threat by all the great cosmics and wm had a great showing against him, MUCH better than hitting dormmy from behind and punching him to no effect a couple times. the last we see of hollywood in that fight is a blasted, ko'd body easily cast aside by dormammu. not much of a feat, imo.

as far as the hercules showing. call it pis if you like, but it still stands:

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zeus1ob0.jpg

http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zeus2og2.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zeus3ko2.jpg

trading blows with a skyfather no big deal. hollywood barely did that anyway. i can show all 3 panels of the dormmy fight if you want -- cheap shot from behind, ONE panel of hollywood punching, then dormmy casting him away with ease.

wwh 10/10

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
What makes you think this?

because hollywood fought overkill who MAY have been a herald leveller and beat him but it was one HELL of a fight for him. and overkill has no speed feats at all.

sbp slaughtered hordes of gl's and beat down numerous top tiers with ease AND was able to speedblitz 3 flashes. 😐

the one time wm battled gladiator -- who USED a speedblitz on him -- well . . . that didn't go too well for wonderman. ❌ and there is exactly ZERO evidence to suggest that hollywood is faster than classic wonderman.

sbp 10/10

with the gem it would take a little longer, but since the gem doesn't make him faster, he STILL loses everytime, imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
because hollywood fought overkill who MAY have been a herald leveller and beat him but it was one HELL of a fight for him. and overkill has no speed feats at all.

sbp slaughtered hordes of gl's and beat down numerous top tiers with ease AND was able to speedblitz 3 flashes. 😐

the one time wm battled gladiator -- who USED a speedblitz on him -- well . . . that didn't go too well for wonderman. ❌ and there is exactly ZERO evidence to suggest that hollywood is faster than classic wonderman.

sbp 10/10

with the gem it would take a little longer, but since the gem doesn't make him faster, he STILL loses everytime, imo.

You are referring to the Power Gem correct? Well the Power Gem does not just allow the user to press/lift any object, it also adds to the users armor class as well.

It also allows energy manipulators like Thanos to hit with infinite energy force, as seen in the Infinity Gauntlet. Thanos was able to hold off all of those high level cosmics which included Galactus, and the Stranger to name a couple.

The Power Gem was the reason why Thanos was able to not just defend against their physical assaults, but it also allowed for him to defend against their energy assaults as well. So in essence with the Power Gem Wonderman or anyone to that matter should be able to defeat SBP hands down, because on the physical spectrum he would not or should not be able to hurt the user.

The fact that Thor beat the Infinity Watch, and was able to take the Power Gem using force was purely PIS. Just something to think about.

All the same Wonderman/Hollywood would never beat WWHulk in a fight without the Power Gem. He simply doesn't have the feats to show that he can. Also noted was the fact that Dormamu had a new host body in Guardians if I remember correctly, but I could be wrong as this was nearly 20 years ago when I read the story... I mean Amadeus Cho showed that he was far less powerful as a host of Zom, than Strange was. Hollywood would never defeat the current Dormamu in battle.

WWH 10/10

hollywood?
hollywood hulk hogan? 😕

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
You are referring to the Power Gem correct? Well the Power Gem does not just allow the user to press/lift any object, it also adds to the users armor class as well.

It also allows energy manipulators like Thanos to hit with infinite energy force, as seen in the Infinity Gauntlet. Thanos was able to hold off all of those high level cosmics which included Galactus, and the Stranger to name a couple.

The Power Gem was the reason why Thanos was able to not just defend against their physical assaults, but it also allowed for him to defend against their energy assaults as well. So in essence with the Power Gem Wonderman or anyone to that matter should be able to defeat SBP hands down, because on the physical spectrum he would not or should not be able to hurt the user.

The fact that Thor beat the Infinity Watch, and was able to take the Power Gem using force was purely PIS. Just something to think about.

All the same Wonderman/Hollywood would never beat WWHulk in a fight without the Power Gem. He simply doesn't have the feats to show that he can. Also noted was the fact that Dormamu had a new host body in Guardians if I remember correctly, but I could be wrong as this was nearly 20 years ago when I read the story... I mean Amadeus Cho showed that he was far less powerful as a host of Zom, than Strange was. Hollywood would never defeat the current Dormamu in battle.

WWH 10/10

gems as a whole>>>>>>>>>gems as individual stones

and i disagree it was pis when wm thor beat the watch. someone like prof hulk stalemated drax. wm thor who is perhaps 10x as powerful as normal thor should have no trouble beating him and the rest of the watch. i guess adam could have tried the soul suck, but he almost NEVER does that so it really wasn't cis. but that's getting off topic.

anyway, agreed about hollywood. nowhere near the feats to win this.

Originally posted by Sado22
hollywood?
hollywood hulk hogan? 😕

Lol. Hulkamania.