Ares vs Colossus

Originally posted by Jugglenaut
Fail. Colossus needs a whole team with him to do so.
If you want to use ABC logic, then Thor > Juggy.

Where is the "whole team" of X-Men at?

Colossus vs. Juggernaut-I:

Colossus knocked Juggernaut down twice in this fight but ended up loosing. Colossus shows some nice agility here too.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandJuggernaut102.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandJuggernaut1022.jpg

Colossus vs. Juggernaut-II:

Colossus learned his lesson from the first fight and used his brains to actually temporaliy stop the unstoppable Juggernaut. The massive ocean liner they were on was shaking from the fight.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandJuggySW38.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandJuggySW38-2.jpg

Colossus vs. Juggernaut-III:

Here we have the infamous bar fight. Colossus was only 19 years old and pretty drunk during this match so I'm pretty sure his vision and reflexes were impared(Not that it would have mattered) but did fairly well here. Alot of people think Colossus was knocked out but if you look at the last scan it shows him armored up and still concious. You can paint your own picture.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusvsJuggyunc183.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/Colossusbarfight.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/Colossusbarfight2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/Colossusbarfight3.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/Colossusbarfight4.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/Colossusbarfight5.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/Colossusbarfight6.jpg

I think Colossus would choke the hell out of Ares in an unarmed battle, Petes alot stronger as an adult than he was in Snoops scans.

While WWHulk beat Ares in one panel, it took him a couple pages to beat Colossus. 😉

Is this ares the one that Thor fought or the one from mighty avengers?

Are they the same person? 😕

Originally posted by TrollDog
Are they the same person? 😕

yea their one and the same.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
yea their one and the same.

Just to clairfy one thing, World War Hulk was enraged by Iron Man's missile attack that reminded him of Caiera's death. That panel of his eyes right before he bumrushes Iron Man was something. I think Ares is quite underrated, mainly because people haven't read too much of him. Mind you, this is a guy who can go toe-to-toe with Hercules.

Hmmm. An idea for a new thread?

I don't think that was good writing...Zeus looks like an emaciated old geezer, not the huge, robust pimp-daddy with a fiery-red shock of manbeard that he's supposed to be. That guy is supposed to be able to pick up smoking-hot chicks by the scores due to having the testosterone and...endowments of a bull. But that skinny old guy looks like he's gonna fall over any second from hunger pains. Zeus getting punched out like that doesn't show Ares' power, just that Marvel doesn't give Zeus the respect he deserves.

Honestly, Ares hasn't impressed me all that much yet. I don't underrate him at all, however. I realize his strength and power, his ability to go against Hercules and Thor, but these seem kind of a few and rare occurance. He appears to have problems with lesser foes for the most part. I'd like to see more of him.

But I think Colossus takes the slight majority, only 6/10. His superior durability, fighting skills, equivalent strength, intelligence/resourcefulness, his agility, and other superhuman stats (as they are enhanced to superhuman when he transforms) give him the win here.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Honestly, Ares hasn't impressed me all that much yet. I don't underrate him at all, however. I realize his strength and power, his ability to go against Hercules and Thor, but these seem kind of a few and rare occurance. He appears to have problems with lesser foes for the most part. I'd like to see more of him.

But I think Colossus takes the slight majority, only 6/10. His superior durability, fighting skills, equivalent strength, intelligence/resourcefulness, his agility, and other superhuman stats (as they are enhanced to superhuman when he transforms) give him the win here.

Fighting skills are probably the only area Colossus is inferior to Ares in, while his strength is actually greater.

I would also give 6/10 to Colossus.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Honestly, Ares hasn't impressed me all that much yet. I don't underrate him at all, however. I realize his strength and power, his ability to go against Hercules and Thor, but these seem kind of a few and rare occurance. He appears to have problems with lesser foes for the most part. I'd like to see more of him.

But I think Colossus takes the slight majority, only 6/10. His superior durability, fighting skills, equivalent strength, intelligence/resourcefulness, his agility, and other superhuman stats (as they are enhanced to superhuman when he transforms) give him the win here.

Resourcefulness to Colossus? And intelligence?

No offence, but please :/

Originally posted by llagrok
Resourcefulness to Colossus? And intelligence?

No offence, but please :/

What's the problem?

Have you seen many of his fights? Aside from his obvious strength/durability powers that he uses in fights, many times he utilizes other strategies to defeat his opponents. Two of his fights with Juggernaut come to mind. There was also another time where he was facing an enemy that was stronger than he was, but he used other methods to defeat him. Check out his Respect thread. Colossus is very intelligent for a brick.

Stamina I would go to Ares

Originally posted by llagrok
Resourcefulness to Colossus? And intelligence?

No offence, but please :/

Although the god of War should be, Ares isn't always written as the smartest tool in the shed. He constantly rushed into battle, and makes hotheaded decisions.

Not that Colossus is a genius either. 😛

Originally posted by Metalmanx
What's the problem?

Have you seen many of his fights? Aside from his obvious strength/durability powers that he uses in fights, many times he utilizes other strategies to defeat his opponents. Two of his fights with Juggernaut come to mind. There was also another time where he was facing an enemy that was stronger than he was, but he used other methods to defeat him. Check out his Respect thread. Colossus is very intelligent for a brick.

Eclipsed by the praise Ares receives from the greek gods.

The Ares series portrayed him as the god of war that he is. Being goaded into battle by She Ultron does NOT discredit all his other feats. He's the one that ended up saving the day anyways.

Who has Colossus BEATEN by simply using his "resourcefulness"? Because getting the Juggernaut into the water isn't exactly something an 8 year old couldn't have come up.

Originally posted by llagrok
Eclipsed by the praise Ares receives from the greek gods.

The Ares series portrayed him as the god of war that he is. Being goaded into battle by She Ultron does NOT discredit all his other feats. He's the one that ended up saving the day anyways.

Who has Colossus BEATEN by simply using his "resourcefulness"? Because getting the Juggernaut into the water isn't exactly something an 8 year old couldn't have come up.

Damn. I found the scans of the fight I was talking about, but they're on photobucket and have expired. Lemme keep looking to see if anyone reposted them in a different format.

Colossus vs. Anateus.

Colossus used his speed and skill to defeat somebody far stronger than he is. Another good display of agility.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandAntaeus.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandAntaeus2.jpg

Far stronger?

Anteus have no feats beyond being knocked out by Cecilia Reyes and failing to break through her shield. We do not know how strong he is, all we know is that Colossus think he is stronger.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Colossus vs. Anateus.

Colossus used his speed and skill to defeat somebody far stronger than he is. Another good display of agility.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandAntaeus.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandAntaeus2.jpg

That second scan was very cool, although Colossus did have help throughout that fight, it did show some good strength/agility/speed/fighting feats.

Originally posted by llagrok
Far stronger?

Anteus have no feats beyond being knocked out by Cecilia Reyes and failing to break through her shield. We do not know how strong he is, all we know is that Colossus think he is stronger.

You are correct, we don't have anything beyond that. I can't deny that. But, I mean, think about it. Colossus is damn strong. And he knows he's damn strong. I think he would know if someone was far stronger than him.