loki vs ghost rider

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix

I have shown you a scan proving the kind of power he can bring to bear. It is now up to you to prove that Loki can survive a blast like that.

There is no way you can claim that those buildings are all empty or that those street cars were.

You asked me to provide scans and I did so, now your still dodging the issue because you know you cannot prove it.

Well now it's up to you, stop spamming and trolling with the same question and prove that Loki can survive a hellfire blast of that size.

Mephisto couldn't even take Zarathos on his own, he had to get help from Centurious.

My advice is that Quan and Aster put each other on ignore. You both have been arguing in circles through several threads. Asking each other to prove negatives from comics......

Hellfire kills people, period. Hellfire causes damage to super powered and supernatural beings also.

Loki had survived Thor's wrath. Thor can bring the pain and has taken down people>>>>GR.

It's simple, either ignore each other or I'll settle the situation myself. Neither of you want that to happen.

I agree with you.

My case on this is simple:

1)Mephisto who is > Loki was unable to defeat Zarathos on his own and had to get help from Centurious.

2)Dr Strange has said in that scan that GR possesses "Boundless" and "Godlike" power. And he has seen and observed pretty much every level of power in the MU, so I think he is qualified to judge.

3)All I asked was for some proof that the Norse Gods can survive a hellfire blast of a size that can fry an area of a city like that.

Now some of these points can be addressed by the OP stating whether or not Zarathos or Blaze is in control of the GR for this fight.

Originally posted by Badabing
My advice is that Quan and Aster put each other on ignore. You both have been arguing in circles through several threads. Asking each other to prove negatives from comics......

Hellfire kills people, period. Hellfire causes damage to super powered and supernatural beings also.

Loki had survived Thor's wrath. Thor can bring the pain and has taken down people>>>>GR.

It's simple, either ignore each other or I'll settle the situation myself. Neither of you want that to happen.

The only reason I asked him to prove a negative is to throw his tactic right back in his face.

But,I guess aster and I just disagree.

Also during the siege of darkness storyline, Dr Strange was powerless to stop Zarathos who wasn't anywhere near his full power at the time.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Okay prove that he can look away before the stare goes off.

Aster your one of the most annoying poster I've run across to date. You basically highjack every thread and prove nothing while demanding everything be proven to you. Tell me something little boy when asking quan for proof on how fast loki moves, how far can loki attack, can he resisit the hell fire stare etc etc. Some of this stuff can't be proven at all you kid. It's like me asking for a specfic distance that GR can attack from and how far the stare reaches. Can you do so you? Can you prove that GR hellfire attack works on a character such as loki? You can sit there hiding behind your fallacies all day long but at the end fo the day all you do is argue in a horrible manner. Anybody can sit there and say prove so and so can resist this attack.... well genius unless said person used that attack on that individual then there is no way to know whether it would or wouldn't. It doesn't matter if they have been hit with similiar attacks before from others you could always argue well it wasn't from this particular person so therefore who knows. Your arguing style is rather annoying and really makes you look bad. So, prove the questions I asked you about GR attacks and prove exactly how powerful they are, that it can hurt Loki, how far he can attack from and then also prove he can resist magic because in case you didn't know Loki is a better magician the strange. Oooo and furthermore the reason the illusions quan presented had nothing to do with prep is because he's a f-ing magician genius.

I've given lots of proof in the form of scans and citing issues.

Before you come in here shooting your mouth off I suggest you read over the last few pages and what the mod said.

Hellfire kill people both normal and supernatural. At that point it is now up to the other person to prove their guy is immune.

You have a problem with this then do the mature thing and talk to the mods.

No you didn't answer my questions.... Prove the distance these attacks reach I want specifics feet/yards whatever, prove GR is immune to magic and I want specific proof of a magician like Loki, prove exactly how powerful GR attacks are I want specifics and scans saying how powerful they are like... 1 atom bomb 2 atom bombs etc etc. I also want specific proof that the hellfire attack works on a God as it didn't work on Thor so I want a specific scan saying it works on Loki. Thanks kid

I'll let the mods deal with you.

If it's good enough for Badabing it's good enough for me.

It's not good enough kid. That's the problem is this is how you debate. You ask for specifics just like I asked you for ALL THE TIME which is unreasonable as you just found out. So, unless you can provide such stuff everytime you ask for it then just don't even both because you look like a douche trying to have a circular argument that can't be proven one way or another. So, answer my questions?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's not good enough kid.

Well the mods disagree, now if you have problems with my debating style take it up via PM, the thread isn't the place for it.

They don't disagree as a matter a fact they think the same exact thing imo. Any reasonable person would when looking at your debating style. Don't think just because they cut you slack they don't think your a tool when you ask for scans, specifics & proof that can't even really be proven. Make no mistake kid everybody can see that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
They don't disagree as a matter a fact they think the same exact thing imo. Any reasonable person would when looking at your debating style. Don't think just because they cut you slack they don't think your a tool when you ask for scans, specifics & proof that can't even really be proven. Make no mistake kid everybody can see that.

Originally posted by Badabing

Hellfire kills people, period. Hellfire causes damage to super powered and supernatural beings also.

I suggest you read this again, then I suggest you do the grown up thing and take any problems you have with my debating style to a PM where it belongs.

Right now your just trolling.

To sum up my case:

You asked how he takes out Loki, the answer is below.

Badabing has even said.

Hellfire kills people, period. Hellfire causes damage to super powered and supernatural beings also.

At this point, it is perfectly reasonable for me to ask you to prove that Loki can survive that.

Next we have Dr Strange's assessment of GR's power.

"Boundless" and "Godlike" are not exactly subjective terms.

And then:
1)Mephisto who is > Loki was unable to defeat Zarathos on his own and had to get help from Centurious.

2)Also during the siege of darkness storyline, Dr Strange was powerless to stop Zarathos who wasn't anywhere near his full power at the time.

Okay using your techniques.... exactly how damaging was that blast (still never answered that I want specifics) and prove that it would hurt loki, next prove mephisto is greater then loki I want scans and proof of this. Remember in another thread involving Thanos where it was stated the clobe he sent to fight was a lesser clone and you had the nerve to say how less of a close I want proof exactly how lower it was. So, then exactly how Godlike is he cause that can be relative. So, exactly how Godlike is he I want specifics on his power level. Also, your sucI still have a whole bunch of other questions you haven't answered that I'm awaiting.

As I have said then onus is on you to prove that Loki can survive that. The mod has even said it's a well known fact that Hellfire can kill and harm both normal people and Super-human and Supernatural beings.

If you want to disagree with the mod then take it up with him.

Next, in one of his own scans in this thread Mephisto tells Loki, that he is almost his equal.

As far as GR's power "boundless" goes along way towards that.

Also the fact that Dr Strange could do nothing to a weak version of Zarathos says allot as well.

I have given you the answers your going to get on those questions. Whether or not you like them is up to you.

I have told you what you need to prove in order to convince me. If you don't care if I believe you which is a perfectly valid option then don't sweat over it.

still loki

I think GR wins and you misspelled my name in your sig.