Thor and Wonder Woman versus Silver Surfer and Kyle Rayner

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Mindset Senior Member

Explain to me how he has looked like a 'complete fool'.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mindset
Explain to me how he has looked like a 'complete fool'.

He was terrible in countdown. donna and jason todd looked better than kyle. And what has he done in the corps books but look like a part of the standard team? he hasn't outshined any other corps member. hell, he's gotten his ass kicked alone with everyone else.

quanchi112 Disney

Surfer and Rayner win.

Mindset Senior Member

So basically you're going off your preference and one storyline?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Mindset
So basically you're going off your preference and one storyline?
This surprises you?

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mindset
So basically you're going off your preference and one storyline?

No I'm going off of recent showings.
Recently Wondy, has stood up breifly to Amazo. Even knocked him off of his feat and thru floors and floors of the leagues base.
Recently Wondy was shown trading blows with konvict who had handed the league thier asses and even briefly put Superman down.
Recently she's been shown beating a GL and then letting him pummel her just to make a point.
She beat a high level demon by using her lasso in ways we haven't seen.
Kyle recently has just been terrible since the reintroduction of hal jordan.

So please don't tell me what the hell I'm going off of. Ask me.

Mindset Senior Member

I did ask you, and what you were going off of was your dislike for him in countdown (preference), and his showings in SC (one storyline).

Kyle has been terrible since Hal's return, how so?

He just lost his Ion power in SC. He hasn't had that much of a chance to do anything since then.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mindset
I did ask you, and what you were going off of was your dislike for him in countdown (preference), and his showings in SC (one storyline).

who says I'm talking about SC? I'm talking about kyle recently in the GL corps. do you read it? He's done nothing special. He doesn't stand out. he go this ass kicked same as every other GL. the only one who stood out was sodam yat, and that was becuz he punched mongul and drew blood. And don't get it twisted, Kyle was my favorite far beyond Hal. I hated hal jordan. And I loved kyle. he was so much better at the GL ring thing. But it seems dc is moving him into obscurity as they shine the light on hal and guy and john.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by fangirl101
who says I'm talking about SC? I'm talking about kyle recently in the GL corps. do you read it? He's done nothing special. He doesn't stand out. he go this ass kicked same as every other GL. the only one who stood out was sodam yat, and that was becuz he punched mongul and drew blood.
Mongul was giving it to multiple GL's (Kyle and Guy included) and Ion.

So Kyle was supposed to beat Mongul on his own when no one else could?

Yat should have stood out, he is a Daxamite with Ion power...he still did nothing.

How is that proof of anything, maybe if WW flew in and one shotted Mongul you would have a point.

Val-E-Doosh Senior Member

Kyle failed to beat a powered up Mongul. Surely that means he can't beat Wonder Woman.

Wonderful logic.

Mindset Senior Member

WW can take the whole GLC, she'll lasso the power battery and destroy it.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mindset
Mongul was giving it to multiple GL's (Kyle and Guy) and Ion.

So Kyle was supposed to beat Mongul on his own when no one else could?

Yat should have stood out, he is a Daxamite with Ion power...he still did nothing.

How is that proof of anything, maybe if WW flew in and one shotted Mongul you would have a point.


Since kyle was the best GL ever along with hal jordan, you'd think he'd have a better showing than the others. He didn't. he didn't stand out. he hasn't stood out. he didn't do anything spectacular in countdown. It be better if you examined the big picure. Wondy is doing better in recent events than kyle is. She manages to shine even around people like her while kyle is not. Peace.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Val-E-Doosh
Kyle failed to beat a powered up Mongul. Surely that means he can't beat Wonder Woman.

Wonderful logic.


Is that your logic? because that surely isn't what I said. Your comprehension skills are just awesome. So awesome that you read something that i didn't say.

Val-E-Doosh Senior Member

Originally posted by fangirl101
Is that your logic? because that surely isn't what I said. Your comprehension skills are just awesome. So awesome that you read something that i didn't say.

Actually, I just called your post(s) stupid. If you had comprehension skills, you would have recognized that.

Mindset Senior Member
Originally posted by fangirl101
Since kyle was the best GL ever along with hal jordan, you'd think he'd have a better showing than the others. He didn't. he didn't stand out. he hasn't stood out. he didn't do anything spectacular in countdown. It be better if you examined the big picure. Wondy is doing better in recent events than kyle is. She manages to shine even around people like her while kyle is not. Peace.

So taking Kyle's feats over a one year period and ignoring all his other ones is examining the big picture?

And Yat should still do better than Kyle, he barely did.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Val-E-Doosh
Actually, I just called your post(s) stupid. If you had comprehension skills, you would have recognized that.

Actually if I valued your opinion, then it would matter. but since you dont' debate much from what I've seen, just insult, and being a jerk, then why would I value your opinion much? comprehend that? next time before you tell me what you are calling stupid, make sure I respect your opinion. Then you won't waste your time.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mindset
So taking Kyle's feats over a one year period and ignoring all his other ones is examining the big picture?

And Yat should still do better than Kyle, he barely did.


Actually, kyle states himself that he could have defeated nero, the same as yat, but he didn't so yat could have some confidence. I'm not ignoring all of kyles feats. DC is. Or didn't you get that from what I posted earlier?

Val-E-Doosh Senior Member
Originally posted by fangirl101
Actually if I valued your opinion, then it would matter. but since you dont' debate much from what I've seen, just insult, and being a jerk, then why would I value your opinion much? comprehend that? next time before you tell me what you are calling stupid, make sure I respect your opinion. Then you won't waste your time.
Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by fangirl101
Actually, kyle states himself that he could have defeated nero, the same as yat, but he didn't so yat could have some confidence. I'm not ignoring all of kyles feats. DC is. Or didn't you get that from what I posted earlier?
What does Nero have to do with anything?

Of course Kyle can beat him, he has before, what was the point of bringing that up?

You are using less than a year of Kyle's showings, and nothing else.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Mindset
What does Nero have to do with anything?

Of course Kyle can beat him, he has before, what was the point of bringing that up?

You are using less than a year of Kyle's showings, and nothing else.


Yes. As I am using less than a year of wonder woman's and thors. I'm using recent showings as all of the characters have gone thru some upgrades or in kyle's case, a down grade.