Shadowcat Vs X-23

Started by llagrok2 pages
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm pretty sure that phasing a giant bullet made of alien metal through the earth is more strenuous than phasing through a little adamantium.

So?

She's still pretty close to vomiting every time she phases through adamantium.

Originally posted by llagrok
She's still pretty close to vomiting every time she phases through adamantium.
Not every time. More when it's convenient for the writer, she didn't originally show any effects as seen in the Kitty Pryde and Wolverine series years and years ago. And even in more recent comics, for example when Wolverine stabbed through her to kill Northstar, or when he was Deathverine, nothing happened.

And X-23 doesn't even have an adamantium skeleton, just claws.

Originally posted by llagrok
She can't just "phase" the floor like that, she would need to phase X-23 into her. Phasing floors and such isn't something does a lot, or has done more than....twice?

Granted, Shadowcat should be capable of grabbing X-23's waist and phasing her. As long as she avoids the claws.

She just phased a 10 mile Bullet in her last appearance, I don't see the problem with her phasing a good chunk of the arena. It's quite likely that she'd try to cripple X-23 rather then kill her so phasing the arena so that X-23 falls a depth of 50cm should do the trick.
Pulling her into the ground may also work but the former is easier.

As for the Kitty Proof Box, not only was it dense it's molecules were fluid (span it's molecules to make phasing harder) but she still phased through it then Auntie Emma knocked her out telepathically.

Also X-23 only has adamantium claws her skeleton isn't laced with it, see when Belasco killed her and why she's much more agile then Wolverine and her bio(IRRC).

pretty much what x and ec said, imo, kitty ftw.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Not every time. More when it's convenient for the writer, she didn't originally show any effects as seen in the Kitty Pryde and Wolverine series years and years ago. And even in more recent comics, for example when Wolverine stabbed through her to kill Northstar, or when he was Deathverine, nothing happened.

And X-23 doesn't even have an adamantium skeleton, just claws.

When she fought deathverine she almost got killed until she was saved and when he was slicing through her she felt every piece of it.

I know that she dont have adamantium bone but that wasnt my point, she isnt attacking her with her bones, she using her adamantium claws.

This Deathverine?
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4314/65fightsdeath1iq4.jpg

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This Deathverine?
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4314/65fightsdeath1iq4.jpg
😖hifty:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Not every time. More when it's convenient for the writer, she didn't originally show any effects as seen in the Kitty Pryde and Wolverine series years and years ago. And even in more recent comics, for example when Wolverine stabbed through her to kill Northstar, or when he was Deathverine, nothing happened.

And X-23 doesn't even have an adamantium skeleton, just claws.

Xmarks has pretty much already said everything I was going to say. Besides, what people don't seem to get is that Kitty doesn't necessarily need to phase through X-23. She just needs to touch her at all to phase her through say...the ground.

Anyway, Kitty wins hard.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Anyway, Kitty wins hard.

👆

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This Deathverine?
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4314/65fightsdeath1iq4.jpg

post her defeat. You do know that he defeated her right, with the same claws that went through her.

By the way this is in her bio which on panel has been displayed numerous of times.

"While phasing, she does not physically walk on surfaces, but rather interacts with the molecules of air above them, allowing her to ascend and descend. While phased, she is immune to most physical attacks, and has inconsistent showings of some resistance to telepathy. The density of some materials (such as adamantium) can prove deleterious to her phasing, causing her to be severely disoriented or experience pain if she tries to pass through them."

I got it from here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Pride

Its in every bio that she has and it has been displayed in almost every comic that she has been that involves adamantium.Thats a good showing for her but its not a regular showing. X23 would wreck her at least 7/10.

I said it's been inconsistent and cite two recent instances where nothing happens, one of them being when she fought Wolverine as Death in Wolverine #146.
You said "when he was slicing through her she felt every piece of it."
I posted a scan showing that to be false. I can post the rest of the fight to further show it to be false.

Wolverine does eventually stab her in the foot when it's solid. Hooray adamantium hurts solid things.
Which has nothing to do with the point of me citing the instance as adamantium having no effect from her when phased in a recent comic.
In recent comics she's shown no need to solidify "for leverage" as evident in her kicking the crap out of Emma Frost.

Hooray you can search wikipedia. It hasn't been shown in every comic she's been in involving adamantium, it was in an issue where Sabretooth slashed her, another apparently during a training session and an instance with Viper. I also remember X-23 passing through her in Uncanny harming both of them iirc.

And regardless of whether the weakness is taken into account she still wins. She can phase the arena, she can rush through and pull out a vital organ, she can just do this:

and pull X-23 under, all before X-23 lands a hit.

Originally posted by carver9
post her defeat. You do know that he defeated her right, with the same claws that went through her.

By the way this is in her bio which on panel has been displayed numerous of times.

"While phasing, she does not physically walk on surfaces, but rather interacts with the molecules of air above them, allowing her to ascend and descend. While phased, she is immune to most physical attacks, and has inconsistent showings of some resistance to telepathy. The density of some materials (such as adamantium) can prove deleterious to her phasing, causing her to be severely disoriented or experience pain if she tries to pass through them."

I got it from here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Pride

Its in every bio that she has and it has been displayed in almost every comic that she has been that involves adamantium.Thats a good showing for her but its not a regular showing. X23 would wreck her at least 7/10.

Oh my....Wikipedia evidence faint

Still Kitty 10/10

Originally posted by The Pict
Oh my....Wikipedia evidence faint

Still Kitty 10/10

Its not that I was saying that wikipedia is 100% accurate I just wanted to show at least something saying it besides myself.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/15/wikipedia_can_damage_your_grades/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS261US263&q=wikipedia+fails+students

Originally posted by The Pict
Oh my....Wikipedia evidence faint

Still Kitty 10/10

It DID happen though, in uncanny x-men.