No, the OP (Which you yourself wrote) says no wankey stuff, but Dante's regen is natural to him, as are a great portion of his Devil powers. The only things that are magic by any digree of definition are his uber Close Combat weapons.
Don't get me wrong, Fox is an awsome fighter, and could probably last a while against Dante in a pure swordfight... But there's no way for him to actually defeat Dante... Regen's a real ***** for Fox to get around, especially considering Dante is considerably faster and more acrobatic (The due rode a missile like a surfboard.)
The only way for Fox to win a battle like this, is to get a clean and full hit thats strong enough to lobb off Dante's head... And the only way I can see him doing this is with his Stealth Camo, and to get in close without Dante being aware of him, which is also very hard to do considering Dante's senses are enhanced by his half demonic nature and natural awareness.
Anyways, Dante's got speed, skill, strength, endurance, AND natural ability over Fox, Fox's only real advantage would be experience and training..
So Dante could survive a shot to the head that could pierce hard metal armor? Gray Fox wins. His head flys off.
I take it you've never been within 10 feet of a DMC game disc. Go play DMC 3, he gets shot in the head from a very close distance, and the wound is healed instantly. He suffered no ill effects whatsoever from it. GF can't hurt Dante.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Okay...and I saw Fox bullet-timing Vulcan cannon fire and holding up a gaint mech's foot.
Dante SHOOTS bullets out of the air... with a pair of semi autos...
We see him take hits from gigantic demons, elemental attacks, massive falls, explosions and more...
I'm sorry, but no... All the respect in the world to Fox, but there aint no way he can win a straight up battle against Dante...
And Fox's exoskeleton wasn't even slightly damaged by a guy unloading a FAMAS into him at close range.
And there are different kinds of guns with different levels of power.
Just because Dante can "heal instantly" from some bullet wounds doesn't mean he can from all of them.
And DMC3 Dante was goddam fail.
"HOOOOO! I LOVE A FAST WOMAN!"
I mean...what in the hell? Did some b-movie cowboy take over the body of an anime bishy?
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
And Fox's exoskeleton wasn't even slightly damaged by a guy unloading a FAMAS into him at close range.
And there are different kinds of guns with different levels of power.
Just because Dante can "heal instantly" from some bullet wounds doesn't mean he can from all of them.
Explosions... Acid.... Magic attacks.... Massive Impact.... Missiles.....
And lets not forget, he was beaten h2h by Snake....
Dante has healed from alot worse than bullets, he had his heart ran through by the sword Alastor... And I do mean THROUGH...
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
And DMC3 Dante was goddam fail.
"HOOOOO! I LOVE A FAST WOMAN!"
I mean...what in the hell? Did some b-movie cowboy take over the body of an anime bishy?
So... What your saying is that Dante loses because of your oppinion of his attitude?
And lets not forget, he was beaten h2h by Snake....
So did Volgin.
It's bullshit since Fox and Volgin are SOLAR SYSTEMS apart from either Snake in strength and durability.
So... What your saying is that Dante loses because of your oppinion of his attitude?
Who said he lost? I just made a comment on how his character sucked.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
So did Volgin.
It's bullshit since Fox and Volgin are SOLAR SYSTEMS apart from either Snake in strength and durability.
It's still an official fact, you have to take the bad with the good, or come up with a legitimate reason why they lost that can be explained logically and within the game.
Either way, they both lost despite their apparent advantages.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Who said he lost? I just made a comment on how his character sucked.
it's not a good thing to bring up in the middle of a debate... 😉
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Explosions... Acid.... Magic attacks.... Massive Impact.... Missiles.....And lets not forget, he was beaten h2h by Snake....
Dante has healed from alot worse than bullets, he had his heart ran through by the sword Alastor... And I do mean THROUGH...
So... What your saying is that Dante loses because of your oppinion of his attitude?
Also note the shape of Alastor's hilt- with all those decorative enements and the way Dante gets rid of it our handsome demonic whitehaired beauty should have lterelly torn his own heart into pieces (he passes straigth through the hilt with all those decorative batwings- that's much more damage done to tissue than if he were to pass just through the straight blade). And he's OK in less than a minute after that.
Also note the scene with Beowulf in DMC3 where Dante gets punshed straight into stone floor- that feat can easily be compared with Wolverine being punched a couple of metres into the ground by Hulk- OK, Beowulf is low level class 100 at the very best, but stone is harder than ground and Dante's sceleton, while being harder than the one of normal human (probably) isn't made of adamantium. That healing feat isn't as popular around DMC board as regenerating from being impaled, but still impressive.
And headshots from Desert Eagle caliber bullets on close range did NOTHING to Dante, so case is closed.
And calling Dante a brainless clown is akin to calling Emma Frost a ****- misguiding looks, and Dante's case is spoiled even more by the fact that most popular game featuring him is the game about his youth, where you can see a 19 years old boy without developed motivation.
Another case of Dante vs headshots was in the 1st DMC novel- that was partially retconned by 3rd game, remaining only story of Dante being a mercenary under name Tony Redgrave when aproximately 16-18 years old (before starting demon hunting business)- he takes 90(!) mashine gun bullets from trained gunfighters like nothing, shots down them and only complaints about his coat being ruined.. and that, according to the current place of what's left of the very Redgrave storyline, was when he was f*cking 17 years old.
Dante in his prime (DMC1 to DMC4) kills Gray Fox easily. Even 19 years old from DMC3 can manage well, I think. But taking them both at their best=horrible curbstomp in Dante's favour.
And BTW, why doesn't anyone mention Royal Guard- OK, shadow duplicating, time manip? Pandora and elemental weaponry are "nullified" by OP, but RG is quite a natural skill- and that's pretty durable forcefield+Dreadnaught thing.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Also note the shape of Alastor's hilt- with all those decorative enements and the way Dante gets rid of it our handsome demonic whitehaired beauty should have lterelly torn his own heart into pieces (he passes straigth through the hilt with all those decorative batwings- that's much more damage done to tissue than if he were to pass just through the straight blade). And he's OK in less than a minute after that.
Also note the scene with Beowulf in DMC3 where Dante gets punshed straight into stone floor- that feat can easily be compared with Wolverine being punched a couple of metres into the ground by Hulk- OK, Beowulf is low level class 100 at the very best, but stone is harder than ground and Dante's sceleton, while being harder than the one of normal human (probably) isn't made of adamantium. That healing feat isn't as popular around DMC board as regenerating from being impaled, but still impressive.
And headshots from Desert Eagle caliber bullets on close range did NOTHING to Dante, so case is closed.And calling Dante a brainless clown is akin to calling Emma Frost a ****- misguiding looks, and Dante's case is spoiled even more by the fact that most popular game featuring him is the game about his youth, where you can see a 19 years old boy without developed motivation.
Another case of Dante vs headshots was in the 1st DMC novel- that was partially retconned by 3rd game, remaining only story of Dante being a mercenary under name Tony Redgrave when aproximately 16-18 years old (before starting demon hunting business)- he takes 90(!) mashine gun bullets from trained gunfighters like nothing, shots down them and only complaints about his coat being ruined.. and that, according to the current place of what's left of the very Redgrave storyline, was when he was f*cking 17 years old.
Dante in his prime (DMC1 to DMC4) kills Gray Fox easily. Even 19 years old from DMC3 can manage well, I think. But taking them both at their best=horrible curbstomp in Dante's favour.
And BTW, why doesn't anyone mention Royal Guard- OK, shadow duplicating, time manip? Pandora and elemental weaponry are "nullified" by OP, but RG is quite a natural skill- and that's pretty durable forcefield+Dreadnaught thing.
Time manipulation would be Quicksilver, which UTTERLY stomps Fox.
It might be worth noting that as strong as Nero and his Devil Bringer are, pinning Dante to the floor and landing several direct punches on his face accomplished absolutely nothing
Nero (DMC4) was better than Dante expected but not even he can't touch him. Even DT'ed and wielding Yamato, Dante was still playing with him.
Originally posted by Jugglenaut
Time manipulation would be Quicksilver, which UTTERLY stomps Fox.
It might be worth noting that as strong as Nero and his Devil Bringer are, pinning Dante to the floor and landing several direct punches on his face accomplished absolutely nothingNero (DMC4) was better than Dante expected but not even he can't touch him. Even DT'ed and wielding Yamato, Dante was still playing with him.
By the time of DMC4 Dante is the strongest demonic being in DMCverse, so all the enemies he faces there are lesser things to him and can't even save him from the boredom of only having to fight crappy weaklings- the disadvantage of being the best there is in something...
Seriously, the only thing worth mentioning about Fox here is his optical cammo, but Snake managed to detect him- and here we're talking about highly skilled warrior with "sences far keener than those of any human or demon" (I don't remember actual statement from official description by heart, but it was something along the lines of that). Dante's lifting strength might be not off the charts- he has few feats including lifting heavy stuff, but in lifting strength he's class 5 at least... and when we're taking more important way of using the strength aka force of hits, then Dante with his speed and skill totally rules, seriously, see Gilgamesh video in his RT and see what a well-placed One Inch can do to hell gates, and imagine Foxie's head taking that punch- lifting feats are irrelevant, and in terms of force of hits Fox gets crushed and crushed really badly.
This. Is. Spite.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Snake beat a Fox who wasn't trying.Fox has pulled Agent moves with Vulcan cannon fire. He wasn't even budged by RAMAS rounds. He has a laser that is more than capable of blowing off Dante's head.
Dante is not even close to being out of Fox's league in anything except regen because Fox has none.
I guess this proves you don't read very well.
Dante has speed, skill, strength and ability levels WAY beyond what Fox could ever hope to do.
Pure swordfight ends with Fox's corpse being used for chum.
In an all out battle, (Minus magic weapons) Fox couldn't even hit Dante, and even if he could, it would never kill him, Dante's survived far more than a laser... Explosions (Including direct hits from things like missiles and tank shells), magic attacks, strikes from creatures far larger than Rex or Rey (DMC2 & 3)
Where other than stealth and experience can Fox hope to have an edge?