Necromancer (Diablo) Vs. Kratos, Siegfried, Ganon, Yoshimitsu and Hayabusa

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............. sarcasm off

Originally posted by dat_boi
omg i cant blieve i just got owned by the greatest rebuttal ever

I know. Sucks to be you shrug

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I know. Sucks to be you shrug [/B]
only on days were i lose to u and this aint 1 of em 💃

Then how do you plan for any one of these to even harm the Necromancer, you who are me so superior in debating? Since you obviously know so much about the Necromancer, these are the points I want you to counter:

- Iron Maiden
- Bone Prison
- Teleport (Swift)
- Decrepify
- Poison Nova
- Bone Spirit
- Bone Armor
- Indestructable Plate Armor
- 30 Skeleton Magi's spamming the five elements
- Firewall
- Bonewall
- Bone Spear
- Lower Resist

He by the way only needs four, perhaps three or maybe even just two to defeat the whole team.

- Iron Maiden
hayabusa neutralizes as with dokus sword he drains health so yeah as he loses health hed b gaining it at the same time also kratos has zeus lightinig bolts ranged attacc duh
- Bone Prison
hayabusa runs 2 fast 2 b caught by this in this yoshi can fly as far as the other 2 im sure theyll b fine
- Teleport (Swift)
if u run u die tired
- Decrepify
u got me
- Poison Nova
weak
- Bone Spirit
they get outran and dissapate by every1 here cept maybe sig
- Bone Armor
5 on 1 with the kind of damage these goons are gonna b dealing ur probably gonna run urself out of mana trying to keep this going
- 30 Skeleton Magi's spamming the five elements
kratos posiedons rages all of them to dust and then is reminded he could bring the army of hades into the fray for some undead fun of his own
- Firewall
could do damage
- Bonewall
yoshi flys over it hayabusa runs up the damn thing and comes down like bird shit on top of the little spellcasting bastard
- Bone Spear
dodged
- Lower Resist
got me again

team takes it although with that skill set and putting more thought in to it im not sure any solos this

Originally posted by dat_boi
- Bone Spirit
they get outran and dissapate by every1 here cept maybe sig

The concept and lore behind bone spirits is that they pursue their target until they find it, if they don't then they continue to chase. Plus, game wise they're slow but lore wise they're quite swift.

Vengeance from beyond the grave is an extremely powerful magic, one beyond normal spells and enchantments.

Originally posted by dat_boi
- Bone Armor
5 on 1 with the kind of damage these goons are gonna b dealing ur probably gonna run urself out of mana trying to keep this going

Well, considering that the necromancer can confuse, fear, and blind, I severely doubt he's going to take that much hits.
Originally posted by dat_boi
- Iron Maiden
hayabusa neutralizes as with dokus sword he drains health so yeah as he loses health hed b gaining it at the same time also kratos has zeus lightinig bolts ranged attacc duh

Your point is moot. Whether through swords, or arrows or magic, whatever damage is "dealt" to the caster is returned to the attacker whereas the caster doesn't so much as feel a slight pain.

The damage dealt is tied into the attacker's own life force and spiritual essence, so whatever they attack, they feel.

Iron Maiden - The Necromancer will dodge the lighting bolts. Concerning Hayabusas sword, it will fail. He will take far more damage than he get healed. Unless the sword heals him for 1000% of his damage, because that is the amount that the curse returns. 1000% the amount of damage inflicted is returned upon the target.

Bone Prison - Runs too fast? It is instant and it is a targeting effect. It even traps a paladin in charge. I have seen the speed of Hayabusa and he will get caught.

Teleport - Good words, but a well equiped Necromancer has a hell lot of Stamina and even more Mana. This Necromancer is even gimped at mana.

Decrepify - It is a good spell.

Poison Nova - Weak how? A top level Poison kills arch demons from Hell in less seconds than you have fingers on your left hand 😉 If it was applied for minutes against the team, they wouldnt feel very well. At least not Siegfried, Kratos and Hayabusa. I dont remember if Yoshi was undead or not, but I'm pretty sure Ganon has quite the resistance against it.

Bone Spirit - Not outran thanks to Decrepify and Bone Prison. Sure, they will be able to dodge them, but one single flaw and they are screwed. Besides, the Necromancer may shoot it from close-range. He is after all the fastest teleporter in the gang.

Bone Armor - He will not let them attack him. The Bone Armor will shield him from the very few attacks these people will actually get in.

Skeleton Magi's - They are fodder, yes. Although they are the kind of fodder that grants the Necromancer the one little second he needs to catch any attackers on the skeletons off-guard.

Firewall - It sure is hot 😉

Bonewall - Fly over, run upwards and whatnow they do. Whatever they do, it is valuable time that they are losing.

Bone Spear - Not at close range.

Lower Resist - Will grant the Necromancer a massive advantage.

No, no one will solo it. I do think they have a chance of winning, a slight, tiny chance. Unfortunatly Nozdormu made the Necromancer "Perfect AI" and that will be very tough to beat for any planetary level character.

I can't debate right now, but I do have one little favor to ask you DarkC...can you stop replying to my posts towards Diamond Kisses? I'm only one person, I don't want to answer an essays worth of posts.

Also why cant Ryu Hayabusa kill this Necromancer even with Iron Maiden. If they are both dead. Ryu will win. Just ressurect himself with Talismen of Rebirth. Since by your huge list of abilities and spells that everyone gets everything except the stuff you said they couldnt have. Its automatic.

Also can I get actual descriptions of this Necromancers abilities. A Canon site so i can read actual descriptions.

Also from which game. Ryu has gotten alot faster since Ninja gaiden Black. and has even more powerful abilities. Specially my favorte. The Art of the Piercing Void *Drools*

1.with hayabusa and yoshis speed kratos's lightning im saying a simple speedblitz or an incendiary shuriken would hit his ass b4 he even got 2 cast nething. shuriken assassination
2.y couldnt 2 ninjas a spartan godkiller the king of thieves and a guy who like i sed took out the physical manifestation of a sword that just a fragment of gave an empty suit of armor the power to rapestomp an army dodge a bone spear and an even slower spirit but this punk can dodge lightning and not just any lightning Zeus king of the freccin gods lightning
3.yoshi is powered by undead lifeforce his sword is more powerful in tekken as it would have collected more souls by that time but he himself its never been clear to me wether hes undead or not
4 . as for bone prison and wall u also seem to have forgotten hayabusa 4 1 if he runs up a wall the attacc power coming down is doubled 2has taken down much tougher bone constructs like idk a frekkin reanimated dinosaur thats as tall as as a football field is long and since id say kratos has greater strength feats so these 2 alone could pull the group out of any jam regarding dat
4. oh dont even bring up nething close range hell mid range even (kratos chain swords) thats were this lil bastard gets pwned
5. ur 1 second means nothing bcuz theres 4 other ppl charging the punk while kratos is disintegrating ur skeletons and then pulling a much stronger army from the god of the undead out of the same thin air he just blasted ur skeletons into
6.i stand on my words, this guy dies tired

Originally posted by Csdabest
Also why cant Ryu Hayabusa kill this Necromancer even with Iron Maiden. If they are both dead. Ryu will win. Just ressurect himself with Talismen of Rebirth. Since by your huge list of abilities and spells that everyone gets everything except the stuff you said they couldnt have. Its automatic.

Also can I get actual descriptions of this Necromancers abilities. A Canon site so i can read actual descriptions.

Also from which game. Ryu has gotten alot faster since Ninja gaiden Black. and has even more powerful abilities. Specially my favorte. The Art of the Piercing Void *Drools*


the only canon sites were you can see abilities are one where you see gameplay abilities..we are talking lore abilities as well (which are pretty much the same, just faster and stronger 😛)..
but if you insist -
curses - http://www.diabloii.net/characters/necromancer/curses.shtml
poison/bone - http://www.diabloii.net/characters/necromancer/poisons.shtml
summoning - http://www.diabloii.net/characters/necromancer/summoning.shtml

Originally posted by dat_boi
1.with hayabusa and yoshis speed kratos's lightning im saying a simple speedblitz or an incendiary shuriken would hit his ass b4 he even got 2 cast nething. shuriken assassination
necro has ultra fast tele, and his casts are instant..these guys, no matter how fast they are, will have great difficulty trying to simply touch him
Originally posted by dat_boi
2.y couldnt 2 ninjas a spartan godkiller the king of thieves and a guy who like i sed took out the physical manifestation of a sword that just a fragment of gave an empty suit of armor the power to rapestomp an army dodge a bone spear and an even slower spirit but this punk can dodge lightning and not just any lightning Zeus king of the freccin gods lightning
1. his attacks are slow ingame, lore wise they are much faster
2. and? hows that gonna stop him from getting crippled or blinded?
Originally posted by dat_boi
3.yoshi is powered by undead lifeforce his sword is more powerful in tekken as it would have collected more souls by that time but he himself its never been clear to me wether hes undead or not
not that it matters, since the necro will kill him either way
Originally posted by dat_boi
4 . as for bone prison and wall u also seem to have forgotten hayabusa 4 1 if he runs up a wall the attacc power coming down is doubled 2has taken down much tougher bone constructs like idk a frekkin reanimated dinosaur thats as tall as as a football field is long and since id say kratos has greater strength feats so these 2 alone could pull the group out of any jam regarding dat
it wont matter, it will still SLOW them down.
Originally posted by dat_boi
4. oh dont even bring up nething close range hell mid range even (kratos chain swords) thats were this lil bastard gets pwned
no, kratos will get owned by iron maiden, while necro goes on to the next victim..
Originally posted by dat_boi
5. ur 1 second means nothing bcuz theres 4 other ppl charging the punk while kratos is disintegrating ur skeletons and then pulling a much stronger army from the god of the undead out of the same thin air he just blasted ur skeletons into
proves hades army is stronger than than the forces of a necro...oh wait, you cant 😉
Originally posted by dat_boi
6.i stand on my words, this guy dies tired

oh really..
scenario
necro unleashes all of his powerfull curses, leaving his enemies blinded, crippled, extremely weak and vunerable to magic...while his army of bone mages pump them full of magic, necro spams whatever the hell he likes, and even if one of them manages to attack him, they will die (iron maiden), while the necro laughs at them..

please explain this lore to me. This term doesnt really sound familiar to me.

books 😬
there are canon books about diablo, showing that the necro can
a. teleport
b. shoot really fast bone spirits (as aposed to the ultra slow version in the game)
c. etc

1.he can tele all over the place slow these guys down all day but wen the goon squad catches up with him hes not gonna b very happy now is he.
2.it dont matter what ur talking about lore ingame or real life lightning bolts, bone spear hmmm which 1 do u think is faster
3.no....no he wont
4.slowing the others down amping hayabusas attacc
5.kratos chain swords are like pure magic so no physical attacc no return damage again if hayabusa has dokus sword draining his ass as hes loosing health. neutralized. hell hayabusa even has ki blasts ganon has all types of magical goodies
6. so wut ur trying to say is that the god which rules over the very force behind necros magic doesnt have a stronger army than him riiiiiiiiiiiiiight i got 1 word 4 u.............fail
7.team ftw 4ever and always

1. once he slows them down, they're dead..they wont catch up with him cuz once they're crippled they will get owned...this covers 2-5 as well
6. hades in gow is pissweak compared to some of the other characters in videogaming..just becuase he's a "god" doesnt mean shit in the vs forum, especially since they're in different universe...just because hades is the god of death in gow doesnt mean his power will mean anything in say, the daiblo universe, where any mid level demon can raise the dead...the necro can just do it better..
7. so far you have present no proof to back up this claim..all you said is "that wont work cuz hes kratos!!!!1112121" and spouted meaningliess titles..you fail..

taking half the speed of a guy who can run vertically, run and jump across fighter jets all while thouroughly putting the beatdown on them, yoshi judging from his t5 ending runs like the damn flash (ok maybe an exaggeration but we all seen how yoshi was GETTIN IT! lol) kratos lil over average speed so yeah he gets slowed down same for sig ganon has tele so yeah its gonna help but its not a dealbraker
ur dismissing the fact that hades is a god bcuz mid level demons can use necromancy in diablo the army of hades spell portrays the undead souls as being way faster than a neco's summons
look here im not denying that this would b a good fight or that even some of the team would'nt die in the process of taking this guy out and im not saying that u dont have valid points as these guys dont have defenses against alot of necros magic specifically curses but 5 to 1 and looking at the shit these guys can do and have done im standin on it. team.

Originally posted by dat_boi
taking half the speed of a guy who can run vertically, run and jump across fighter jets all while thouroughly putting the beatdown on them, yoshi judging from his t5 ending runs like the damn flash (ok maybe an exaggeration but we all seen how yoshi was GETTIN IT! lol) kratos lil over average speed so yeah he gets slowed down same for sig ganon has tele so yeah its gonna help but its not a dealbraker
ur dismissing the fact that hades is a god bcuz mid level demons can use necromancy in diablo the army of hades spell portrays the undead souls as being way faster than a neco's summons
look here im not denying that this would b a good fight or that even some of the team would'nt die in the process of taking this guy out and im not saying that u dont have valid points as these guys dont have defenses against alot of necros magic specifically curses but 5 to 1 and looking at the shit these guys can do and have done im standin on it. team.

Instant Teleport, Perfect AI and Instant Cast. I have seen their speed. They will not hit the Necromancer, not even Kratos lighting will, since the Necromancer has dodged lighting before.

Originally posted by dat_boi
taking half the speed of a guy who can run vertically, run and jump across fighter jets all while thouroughly putting the beatdown on them, yoshi judging from his t5 ending runs like the damn flash (ok maybe an exaggeration but we all seen how yoshi was GETTIN IT! lol) kratos lil over average speed so yeah he gets slowed down same for sig ganon has tele so yeah its gonna help but its not a dealbraker

im guessing you havent played diablo2 lod all that well
decripify takes about 90%+ off their speed at the highest level, it slows diablo himself to a crawl, he can barely attack..
Originally posted by dat_boi ur dismissing the fact that hades is a god bcuz mid level demons can use necromancy in diablo the army of hades spell portrays the undead souls as being way faster than a neco's summons

hades is a god only in gow..he sure as hell wouldnt be in diablo2..and his army of hades, while fast, has nowhere near the durability and power that the necro's minions, who can take blast from diablo's red lightning hose (an attack that can kill the necro, or any player, in about 2 seconds), and dish damage back..
Originally posted by dat_boi look here im not denying that this would b a good fight or that even some of the team would'nt die in the process of taking this guy out and im not saying that u dont have valid points as these guys dont have defenses against alot of necros magic specifically curses but 5 to 1 and looking at the shit these guys can do and have done im standin on it. team.

so your saying that the team will win out of numbers, but you think they have no defense against his curses 🙄
btw you completely ignored my scenario, which imo is fairly accurate 😬

ill make it real simple...how are they gonna kill the necro when:
a. they crippled and can hardly move
b. they cant see a thing
c. they are weakened to such an extent that even if they landed a hit on something, they wouldnt scratch it
d. they are extremely vunerable to magic, meaning that the bone mages are gonna rip them to shreds with elemental spells
e. they have bone spirits and bone spears flying at them, doing more magical damage..

face it, the team is screwed 😂

yeah ive played diablo2 didnt really care 4 it but got through it, my bad 90% speed reduc. well 10% of the running power shown in yoshi and hayabusa is enuf to at least be able to run at a lil over average speeds
hades is a god only in gow😕 huh? u know there was a lil thing called GREEK MYTHOLOGY! on which gow is based and i really dont feel like going over over freshman year bs wit u to remind u the kind of stuff the gods did. i never said numbers gave them the win i said considering feats and numbers i think that team takes it i dont think necro could keep these spells going long enuf he might kill 1 or 2 possibly 3 guys in the process but these guys would run him out of mana and then once that happens he's done
i mean these guys are to tuff youve got kratos that can rip his opponents in half like a wet paper towel and overpower beings the size of a city blocc so god only knows exactly how strong this guy is so taking some of his strength doesnt reduce his blows to "scratch" status as far as being blind ryu could just smoke bomb the place up and see who fights better in the dark the like i said if kratos bombs the bone mages with posiedons rage then hes gonna b all by his lonely now i highly doubt the bone spears r gonna b hitting on target and as for bone spirits those things ll get out ran and dodged all day even at 10% speed. team. 😮‍💨