Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Luke force holds Neo to the ground, then beheads him. impossible? no chance at all?
I'm playing by your rules; you said "well, I guess it'd be like a quick draw, whoever wields their powers the fastest" wins. Neo is faster, so Neo wins.
I WIN THE THREAD. Time to close.
Originally posted by Robtard
I'm playing by your rules; you said "well, I guess it'd be like a quick draw, whoever wields their powers the fastest" wins. Neo is faster, so Neo wins.I WIN THE THREAD. Time to close.
You really don't know too much about NJO and post-NJO Luke, do you?
He was able to cloak an entire planet in the Force, move fast enough his lightsaber was like 20 sabers at once, then kill the Yuuzhan Vong Slayer warriors (all of which extremely powerful) after fighting through scores upon scores of normal Vong warriors (each of which with the strength of 2-3 average humans), then kill the very strongest Yuuzhan Vong of all after killing all these other Vong, without using all his effort.
The next trilogy, he could cloak ships and create illusions of other ships using the Force, kill hundreds of Killik insect warriors, kill a quite strong Dark Jedi (Welk), then a book later slaughter hundreds more Killiks, use the Force to guide his lightsaber strikes against an invisible opponent wielding two lightsabers at once, then the next book he was able to root himself in the Force so deeply that not even a black hole could move him. He was also able to manhandle two separate Jedi/Dark Jedi, each of which was able to draw upon the Force potential of the entire Killik species, and one of which had four lightsabers (Lomi Plo). Keep in mind that the one of these Jedi that did not have four lightsabers (Raynar Thul) had enough Force energy to be able to curve turbolaser blasts away from their target, something Luke himself wasn't able to do.
The next trilogy he was able to duel Lumiya (who uses a lightwhip) and Alema Rar simultaneously (twice, in fact), then duel and kill Lumiya later, then duel the newly empowered Sith Lord Darth Caedus and would have be able to kill him but didn't. He could also keep Caedus, a Dark Lord of the Sith, in a state of inability to move with extreme ease, and also was able to send Caedus flying across a room with minimal ease. He is also by now able to conjure illusionary fleets of ships using the Force, and further outwit Darth Caedus.
Luke could sense what Neo was about to do in the Force. He's faster. He could simply hold Neo still in the Force and manhandle him with his instant-lethal Electric Judgement, or use the Force to choke the life out of him, or slice him into a billion pieces with his lightsaber.
Finally, proof of Luke's incredible reflexes, when he battled Lomi Plo (who was using four lightsabers), Lomi Plo flew at him fast enough that even Luke was not able to sense she was about to do this. Yet, despite not sensing that, Luke was able to cut her into four pieces with a deft flick of his lightsaber.
Sorry to say it, but your Neo will get killed by NJO or post-NJO Luke.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luke_Skywalker#Powers_and_abilities
I would have posted a link like that, but I just felt like owning someone that underestimated Lord Luke Skywalker, Force God.
Originally posted by caedusrulesall
You really don't know too much about NJO and post-NJO Luke, do you?He was able to cloak an entire planet in the Force, move fast enough his lightsaber was like 20 sabers at once, then kill the Yuuzhan Vong Slayer warriors (all of which extremely powerful) after fighting through scores upon scores of normal Vong warriors (each of which with the strength of 2-3 average humans), then kill the very strongest Yuuzhan Vong of all after killing all these other Vong, without using all his effort.
The next trilogy, he could cloak ships and create illusions of other ships using the Force, kill hundreds of Killik insect warriors, kill a quite strong Dark Jedi (Welk), then a book later slaughter hundreds more Killiks, use the Force to guide his lightsaber strikes against an invisible opponent wielding two lightsabers at once, then the next book he was able to root himself in the Force so deeply that not even a black hole could move him. He was also able to manhandle two separate Jedi/Dark Jedi, each of which was able to draw upon the Force potential of the entire Killik species, and one of which had four lightsabers (Lomi Plo). Keep in mind that the one of these Jedi that did not have four lightsabers (Raynar Thul) had enough Force energy to be able to curve turbolaser blasts away from their target, something Luke himself wasn't able to do.
The next trilogy he was able to duel Lumiya (who uses a lightwhip) and Alema Rar simultaneously (twice, in fact), then duel and kill Lumiya later, then duel the newly empowered Sith Lord Darth Caedus and would have be able to kill him but didn't. He could also keep Caedus, a Dark Lord of the Sith, in a state of inability to move with extreme ease, and also was able to send Caedus flying across a room with minimal ease. He is also by now able to conjure illusionary fleets of ships using the Force, and further outwit Darth Caedus.
Luke could sense what Neo was about to do in the Force. He's faster. He could simply hold Neo still in the Force and manhandle him with his instant-lethal Electric Judgement, or use the Force to choke the life out of him, or slice him into a billion pieces with his lightsaber.
Finally, proof of Luke's incredible reflexes, when he battled Lomi Plo (who was using four lightsabers), Lomi Plo flew at him fast enough that even Luke was not able to sense she was about to do this. Yet, despite not sensing that, Luke was able to cut her into four pieces with a deft flick of his lightsaber.
Sorry to say it, but your Neo will get killed by NJO or post-NJO Luke.
Calm down, fanboy.
P.S. I already won the thread.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
mmm....lets go with no.
Umm yes, you made the rules; which I played by. You said it would come down to who could use their powers faster, Neo is clearly faster than Luke.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well, I guess it'd be like a quick draw, whoever wields their powers the fastest.
Originally posted by Darth MartinTrue as that may be I believe there was a movie called Matrix Revolution, too.
Also in Matrix Reloaded Neo fought more like 150 to 200 at most Smith's, not 1000.
Originally posted by caedusrulesallI don't see how any of this really makes him more powerful than Neo in the last movie. The only feet that is interesting to this debate would be the black hole thing maybe.
You really don't know too much about NJO and post-NJO Luke, do you?He was able to cloak an entire planet in the Force, move fast enough his lightsaber was like 20 sabers at once, then kill the Yuuzhan Vong Slayer warriors (all of which extremely powerful) after fighting through scores upon scores of normal Vong warriors (each of which with the strength of 2-3 average humans), then kill the very strongest Yuuzhan Vong of all after killing all these other Vong, without using all his effort.
The next trilogy, he could cloak ships and create illusions of other ships using the Force, kill hundreds of Killik insect warriors, kill a quite strong Dark Jedi (Welk), then a book later slaughter hundreds more Killiks, use the Force to guide his lightsaber strikes against an invisible opponent wielding two lightsabers at once, then the next book he was able to root himself in the Force so deeply that not even a black hole could move him. He was also able to manhandle two separate Jedi/Dark Jedi, each of which was able to draw upon the Force potential of the entire Killik species, and one of which had four lightsabers (Lomi Plo). Keep in mind that the one of these Jedi that did not have four lightsabers (Raynar Thul) had enough Force energy to be able to curve turbolaser blasts away from their target, something Luke himself wasn't able to do.
The next trilogy he was able to duel Lumiya (who uses a lightwhip) and Alema Rar simultaneously (twice, in fact), then duel and kill Lumiya later, then duel the newly empowered Sith Lord Darth Caedus and would have be able to kill him but didn't. He could also keep Caedus, a Dark Lord of the Sith, in a state of inability to move with extreme ease, and also was able to send Caedus flying across a room with minimal ease. He is also by now able to conjure illusionary fleets of ships using the Force, and further outwit Darth Caedus.
Luke could sense what Neo was about to do in the Force. He's faster. He could simply hold Neo still in the Force and manhandle him with his instant-lethal Electric Judgement, or use the Force to choke the life out of him, or slice him into a billion pieces with his lightsaber.
Finally, proof of Luke's incredible reflexes, when he battled Lomi Plo (who was using four lightsabers), Lomi Plo flew at him fast enough that even Luke was not able to sense she was about to do this. Yet, despite not sensing that, Luke was able to cut her into four pieces with a deft flick of his lightsaber.
Sorry to say it, but your Neo will get killed by NJO or post-NJO Luke.
Sure Luke is badass, but Neo is kinda a God...