In my opinion, drug dealers should hardly count... yeah it sucks, but most drug dealers do it because they need the money and don't see a better, simpler alternative, even if their is one.
The small time ones anyway. The big wigs who sit around surrounded in money are bastards, but the ordinary guy you see standing on the corner is hardly a bad guy. Same with thieves.
Definitely shoulda replaced those two with rapists and murderers.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well exqueeze me for forgetting, it was 4 am, man. I still say his post is utter bullshit.
My post is bullshit? The fact that society/civilization NEEDS all of the mentioned crimes to continue forth? Yeah, it's true. The bible has murder in it's pages, it's needed. Raping isn't needed, that's lust.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
In my opinion, drug dealers should hardly count... yeah it sucks, but most drug dealers do it because they need the money and don't see a better, simpler alternative, even if their is one.The small time ones anyway. The big wigs who sit around surrounded in money are bastards, but the ordinary guy you see standing on the corner is hardly a bad guy. Same with thieves.
Definitely shoulda replaced those two with rapists and murderers.
Murderers are already on the list. 😉
Originally posted by Scythefirst of all, you dont believe in God, so quoting the bible is hypocritical.
My post is bullshit? The fact that society/civilization NEEDS all of the mentioned crimes to continue forth? Yeah, it's true. The bible has murder in it's pages, it's needed. Raping isn't needed, that's lust.
hmm.....the world NEEDS murderers, the world NEEDS drug dealers, the world NEEDS thieves. Is that right? I just wanna be clear on that before we continue.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
first of all, you dont believe in God, so quoting the bible is hypocritical.hmm.....the world NEEDS murderers, the world NEEDS drug dealers, the world NEEDS thieves. Is that right? I just wanna be clear on that before we continue.
I'm not stating that I believe in god, I'm stating that murder is socially accepted in today's society as well as back then.
Also, yes. As far-out as it may seem to you, the world does need murderes/thieves/drug dealers. The world needs evil and good RJ.
A man/woman may steal to keep his/her family fed, there's a theif.
A man/woman may be plagued with a bad life by having his/her family or love interest taken away by another in cold blood. That murderer must pay his/her dues, therefore revenge comes in, therefore murder must be committed again, it happens. Murder is a daily thing in today's society.
Drug dealers are needed to self-decay successful, metropolitan areas. They balance out a civilization when it's reached it's peak.
Originally posted by Scythe
A man/woman may be plagued with a bad life by having his/her family or love interest taken away by another in cold blood. That murderer must pay his/her dues, therefore revenge comes in, therefore murder must be committed again, it happens. Murder is a daily thing in today's society.Drug dealers are needed to self-decay successful, metropolitan areas. They balance out a civilization when it's reached it's peak.
I was with you until these last two points. They aren't doin' it for me.
I would say that if you took the argument that one most know darkness to know light...I would agree with that logic and say you are right on some levels.
Well, yeah, that's what I'm generally trying to say. There must be evil/dark and good/light. Revenge seems to bring so many murders! Watch the news, gang members play out their entire gang-banging career off of revenge.
And drugs, well they've become a huge part of the world's economy.
Nothing however makes the above criminal acts right, not revenge, nor the self-satisfaction that drugs help society out. Because it doesn't.
Originally posted by Scythe
And drugs, well they've become a huge part of the world's economy.Nothing however makes the above criminal acts right, not revenge, nor the self-satisfaction that drugs help society out. Because it doesn't.
Yes. Both legal and illegal drugs.
One might argue that using drugs illegally is wrong because they cause harm only to themselves and they should have the freedom to as such....but where does that betch get those drugs? A drug dealer. In the some logical vain, you could argue that in order for one to have a personal freedom, another has to knowingly cause harm to another. A drug dealer profits off of another's harm...more specifically, another harming themselves. So, in essence, that is a person freedom that is paradoxical.
"I should have the right to do anything I want, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else."
tsk tsk...buyin those drugs defies that logic because they are enabling someone to go against the grain of their logic. FAIL! tee hee.
Originally posted by Scytheso.... all the people enslaved by crack cocaine, all the innocent drive by shootings, a little girl hit by a stray bullet, the lives destroyed by drugs, the useless and needless killings, this is needed?
I'm not stating that I believe in god, I'm stating that murder is socially accepted in today's society as well as back then.Also, yes. As far-out as it may seem to you, the world does need murderes/thieves/drug dealers. The world needs evil and good RJ.
A man/woman may steal to keep his/her family fed, there's a theif.
A man/woman may be plagued with a bad life by having his/her family or love interest taken away by another in cold blood. That murderer must pay his/her dues, therefore revenge comes in, therefore murder must be committed again, it happens. Murder is a daily thing in today's society.
Drug dealers are needed to self-decay successful, metropolitan areas. They balance out a civilization when it's reached it's peak.
Yes, murder is a daily thing, that doesnt mean its needed. and whats this about drug dealers balancing out a civilization as it reaches its peak? you need to elaborate on that, because it makes no sense. I get what you are saying, it just doesnt add up.
the end justifies the means? is this your outlook on this?
Yeah, something like that, but it's unrealistic to say the world can be without murder. It just sorta has to happen. If there'd be no murder, I think there'd be much worse crimes we've never heard of. Sure, it is terrible and sad, but it balances the earth. Babies are born, people die. Rather it's in cold blood or not, it just has to happen. It's a natural behavior to keep this planet's populance in check.
The way I see (imo) drugs have become a part of the wordl's economy. Columbian drug lords make millions, then they contribute some of that back to the civilization which it helped plague and soon enough, the cycle starts all over again with dirty money. I'm having a hard time describing my beliefs, they're weird, like always, haha.