Yay for incest.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Seriously? That's your concern? At least call it immoral or note the genetic dangers of incest.

Maybe if she grows up in a house where her father and mother are father and daughter she won't care at all.

true, but I didn't feel it a need to repeat that which was already said, yes I think it is immoral and I know the physiological damage the child can suffer...

but they don't have the right to 'hope' that their child will be accepting, that and what happens when medical professionals check on her after birth, that and since it seems general knowledge, the child doesn't only have to be accepting but what about her peers as she grows up? even if she's home-schooled people are gonna know, she'd never have a positive reputation because of her 'parent's' actions...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There's nothing wrong about incestuous relationships but I do agree they should be careful about having children.

Also the genetic risks aren't nearly as high as people think. It's something like 15% rather than the normal 5%. Most children born from closely related people will be quite healthy.

Yeah I suppose but... Its just even that little chance of it happening is still a worry plus the psychological damage to the child and not to mention the bullying in school 😐

They were reunited? How long where they apart? It would be very disturbing if they were in the normal family relationship from her birth up until there attraction and this happened. It's only natural she is attracted to him but if the dad was with her during her childhood and teen years that is very strange indeed. It does not bother me at all as it effects me in no way just the thought of it is quite disgusting.

Originally posted by Aliies
but they don't have the right to 'hope' that their child will be accepting, that and what happens when medical professionals check on her after birth, that and since it seems general knowledge, the child doesn't only have to be accepting but what about her peers as she grows up?

All parents have hopes about their children.

What parent wouldn't raise a kid to understand why mommy and daddy love each other?

Originally posted by Aliies
even if she's home-schooled people are gonna know, she'd never have a positive reputation because of her 'parent's' actions...

That's the sign of a sick, outdated social system not a problem with two people in love.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
Yeah I suppose but... Its just even that little chance of it happening is still a worry plus the psychological damage to the child and not to mention the bullying in school 😐

Fix the system or start aborting every baby with the possibility of a birth defect.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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That's the sign of a sick, outdated social system not a problem with two people in love.

of course as all opinion goes, but you're now going into how you believe that the moral construct of modern-day society is immoral? I am not here to argue or make you justify your opinion, I would just like a little more clarification.

Should we revert to a society based purely on instinct and be rid of morality, then how does that change any facts about say; murder, rape and all the things that morality stand for?

Originally posted by Aliies
of course as all opinion goes, but you're now going into how you believe that the moral construct of modern-day society is immoral? I am not here to argue or make you justify your opinion, I would just like a little more clarification.

I have never seen anything to make certain things that are supposedly immoral be immoral. There is no earthy reason to follow a rule that is clearly bases and irrational.

To use your type of arguments: If modern society said it was immoral to let girls live beyond the age of twenty would you be out there with a chainsaw gutting the sinners?

Originally posted by Aliies
Should we revert to a society based purely on instinct and be rid of morality, then how does that change any facts about say; murder, rape and all the things that morality stand for?

I'd like an arguments that doesn't rely on reducto ad absurdum or strawman. But to answer your question there are very clear victims in those cases. Incest makes two people happy.

How f*cking sick, ewwww.

Oh c'mon.. you weren't complaining when you, your sister and I were gettin' it on.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I have never seen anything to make certain things that are supposedly immoral be immoral. There is no earthy reason to follow a rule that is clearly bases and irrational.

To use your type of arguments: If modern society said it was immoral to let girls live beyond the age of twenty would you be out there with a chainsaw gutting the sinners?

I'd like an arguments that doesn't rely on reducto ad absurdum or strawman. But to answer your question there are very clear victims in those cases. Incest makes two people happy.

well you put up a valid argument there, the two consenting adults despite relations is only immoral in the views of others. But the case here is that modern society isn't going to accept it on a whim, things like this remain and while, yes a lot of it IS absurd, but for the child's sake if she did not develop any deformities mentally or physically; society would not be accepting and as you did say this may just be old-fashioned bias, but It's not going to change anytime soon, so the child will still suffer in the eyes of those around who are not accepting, which in reality is the majority.

My debate is that whilst societal norms will most-likely endure long after we're dead and buried, what becomes of the daughter even if she accepts her parent's relation? I just feel sorry for her in an unbiased way as she will not have the privilege of a normal life due to nonacceptance 🙁

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Oh c'mon.. you weren't complaining when you, your sister and I were gettin' it on.

*sigh*

Back to the incest section at literotica... 🙁

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
start aborting every baby with the possibility of a birth defect.

yes

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

Also the genetic risks aren't nearly as high as people think. It's something like 15% rather than the normal 5%. Most children born from closely related people will be quite healthy.

There was a German professor in human genetics who said that out of a hundred children born from closely related adults almost half have some sort of disabilities.

He was commenting on a couple who were brother and sister but had four children together. Unsurprisingly two of the children were born disabled.

So if people are going to engage in incestuous relationships they should not have children.

well at least they're not gay.

Originally posted by Aliies
well you put up a valid argument there, the two consenting adults despite relations is only immoral in the views of others. But the case here is that modern society isn't going to accept it on a whim, things like this remain and while, yes a lot of it IS absurd, but for the child's sake if she did not develop any deformities mentally or physically; society would not be accepting and as you did say this may just be old-fashioned bias, but It's not going to change anytime soon, so the child will still suffer in the eyes of those around who are not accepting, which in reality is the majority.

My debate is that whilst societal norms will most-likely endure long after we're dead and buried, what becomes of the daughter even if she accepts her parent's relation? I just feel sorry for her in an unbiased way as she will not have the privilege of a normal life due to nonacceptance 🙁

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
*sigh*

Back to the incest section at literotica... 🙁

*high five*

Originally posted by The Pict
There was a German professor in human genetics who said that out of a hundred children born from closely related adults almost half have some sort of disabilities.

He was commenting on a couple who were brother and sister but had four children together. Unsurprisingly two of the children were born disabled.

So if people are going to engage in incestuous relationships they should not have children.

Okay, I got my numbers from a few minutes on google. It probably is best for family members to avoid having children due to the increased chance of birth defects.

Originally posted by lord xyz
So the reason that other people think it's wrong is why you think it's wrong? You have a very bleak view.

Do whatever makes you happy, provided you aren't harming anyone else.

Are they harming anyone else?

It cracks me up that people come up with these type of arguments, yet they're the first to jump on news stories about people in the South by calling them inbred pieces of sh*t.

The sex must have been funny...'Who's your daddy?' *smacks ass*

also, in b4 kram3r lolpost.

Too late for the edit, but theres more info:

A father and daughter who have a baby girl together, had another child who died a few days after birth from a congenital heart disease, court documents show.
"The first child was born in 2001 but died a few days after birth due to a congenital heart disease," Judge Millsteed said.

More crap here for anyone who cares:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/080406/2/16ds9.html?f=mv

I can't believe this happened in Mt. Barker @_@I mean I've heard of it in other countries and other states, but Mt. Barker... man...

this makes us S-Aussies look bad =O

that and its all over the news here...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There's nothing wrong, at all, about incestuous relationships but I do agree they should be careful about having children.

Also the genetic risks aren't nearly as high as people think. It's something like 15% rather than the normal 5%. Most children born from closely related people will be quite healthy.

Sicko.