Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Freud would be peeing his pants from happiness, if he lived to see this.The point is, this girl did not grow up with her father, and therefore was unable to develop an attachment for someone she doesn't know.
That man may be her biological father, but he is equally stranger to her therefore her attraction is partially that of a daughter and partially that of a lover.
(ZOMG Freud was right! LOLWTFBRBLMFAOPLZKTHNX!)
It is therefore not 'weird' for them to be together. Lack of 'traditional' relationship has been replaced by a sexual one.
It's sad you think always acting on a sexual attraction is normal and healthy. It's great this child turned out to be physically healthy, but her mental state will be fragile and always in question when she finds out just how she got here. Many children that are products of rape have a difficult time accepting that fact and have problems in relationships and trust. Imagine a child learning she is a product of illegal incest.
Originally posted by Robtard
Freud would be 152 if he lived to see this, so he'd be pissing himself from incontinence.What about the cases where child and parent did grow up together and they still both develop a mutual sexual attraction?
According to Freud everyone develops unconscious sexual attraction to their parents.
In majority of cases this is suppressed by Superego.
People who grow up with parents and find them sexually attractive and more importantly act on that desire have a Superego which is unable to suppress ID.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
It's sad you think always acting on a sexual attraction is normal and healthy. It's great this child turned out to be physically healthy, but her mental state will be fragile and always in question when she finds out just how she got here. Many children that are products of rape have a difficult time accepting that fact and have problems in relationships and trust. Imagine a child learning she is a product of illegal incest.
Its sad that your theoretical knowledge of complex phenomenon stretches all the way to shock news paper articles of some local gutter press.
I'm afraid I don't understand the b*tchy tone from lil b*tchiness. I am a psychologist and I don't read tabloids or listen to shock jocks, thank you. People forget there are emotional consequences that come along with sex in addition to physical ones and that this young woman seems to act on every sexual desire she feels seems sad to me. It's not normal and it's not healthy to act on every sexual feeling one has. It's even less normal and healthy to learn that one of your sexual exploits was illegal and feel not the slightest bit of confusion about it.
Also, don't take Freud too seriously. He had about six patients total and prescribed them cocaine. Not many in the psychology field take his "theories" seriously since they aren't backed by any empiracal evidence. All he really did for the field is get the name out to make it well-known, and invent the best type of therapy which is patient-driven rather than therapist-driven.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
I'm afraid I don't understand the b*tchy tone from lil b*tchiness. I am a psychologist and I don't read tabloids or listen to shock jocks, thank you. People forget there are emotional consequences that come along with sex in addition to physical ones and that this young woman seems to act on every sexual desire she feels seems sad to me. It's not normal and it's not healthy to act on every sexual feeling one has. It's even less normal and healthy to learn that one of your sexual exploits was illegal and feel not the slightest bit of confusion about it.Also, don't take Freud too seriously. He had about six patients total and prescribed them cocaine. Not many in the psychology field take his "theories" seriously since they aren't backed by any empiracal evidence. All he really did for the field is get the name out to make it well-known, and invent the best type of therapy which is patient-driven rather than therapist-driven.
You psychologist and don't take Freud ''too seriously''?! What are you 16?
I hardly think you walked past the psychology book, let alone a psychologist.
People disagree with Karl Marx, but that doesn't mean sociologists and philosophers will ''not take Marx too seriously'' because he was homeless and poor for a large part of his life.
Get a grip, will you.
Freud's theories are one of the most important of our time, regardless of weather one agrees or not, and if you really WERE a psychologist you will know that sexual attraction between families is a tiny proportion of all of Freud's theories and writings.
The only reason that any Joe Bloggs knows of Freud's name is because of this particular view is considered bizarre and controversial by many.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessI thought being one of the first had something to do with it as well.
You psychologist and don't take Freud ''too seriously''?! What are you 16?I hardly think you walked past the psychology book, let alone a psychologist.
People disagree with Karl Marx, but that doesn't mean sociologists and philosophers will ''not take Marx too seriously'' because he was homeless and poor for a large part of his life.
Get a grip, will you.
Freud's theories are one of the most important of our time, regardless of weather one agrees or not, and if you really WERE a psychologist you will know that sexual attraction between families is a tiny proportion of all of Freud's theories and writings.
The only reason that any Joe Bloggs knows of Freud's name is because of this particular view is considered bizarre and controversial by many.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You psychologist and don't take Freud ''too seriously''?! What are you 16?I hardly think you walked past the psychology book, let alone a psychologist.
People disagree with Karl Marx, but that doesn't mean sociologists and philosophers will ''not take Marx too seriously'' because he was homeless and poor for a large part of his life.
Get a grip, will you.
Freud's theories are one of the most important of our time, regardless of weather one agrees or not, and if you really WERE a psychologist you will know that sexual attraction between families is a tiny proportion of all of Freud's theories and writings.
The only reason that any Joe Bloggs knows of Freud's name is because of this particular view is considered bizarre and controversial by many.
No professor, no colleague I've ever had really takes to Freud's theories. Yes, he was a very important figure because he brought psychology to the forefront and his theories on how we manifest our anger/sadness is very thought-provoking. However, most dismiss the whole idea of the id and the stages of development, one of which strongly focuses on the unconscious desires to kill the same-sex parent and have sexual relations with the opposite-sex parent. If you're into a philosophy rather than a science, then Freud is supercool. If you want to do psychological research, you stick to the people that can support their theories with evidence. Any "real" psychologist will tell you that.
This woman and this man sound to me like they have social and emotional problems and that they use sex to try and make them disappear. But by all means, if you condone incest, I suggest you try it and see what it's like and see what damage it does to your psyche.
Originally posted by willofthewispWouldn't it only do damage to my psyche if a) I didn't want to do it and b) society would stigmatize me for it?
No professor, no colleague I've ever had really takes to Freud's theories. Yes, he was a very important figure because he brought psychology to the forefront and his theories on how we manifest our anger/sadness is very thought-provoking. However, most dismiss the whole idea of the id and the stages of development, one of which strongly focuses on the unconscious desires to kill the same-sex parent and have sexual relations with the opposite-sex parent. If you're into a philosophy rather than a science, then Freud is supercool. If you want to do psychological research, you stick to the people that can support their theories with evidence. Any "real" psychologist will tell you that.This woman and this man sound to me like they have social and emotional problems and that they use sex to try and make them disappear. But by all means, if you condone incest, I suggest you try it and see what it's like and see what damage it does to your psyche.