Blade vs. Ironfist

Originally posted by Mindset
When was Spiderman a vampire? You realize we are using 616 characters, right?

Originally posted by Mindset

A symbiote is similar to vampirism because they are both viruses in a sense, and his healing factor was fighting it off. Marvel Zombies is an alternate universe with an alternate Wolverine. That's like comparing Ultimate Wolverine to 616 and saying they're the same.

Originally posted by Mindset

Vampire Wolverine would not be any easier to beat than regular Wolverine, what is Blade gonna do, stake him through his adamantium sternum?

Originally posted by Mindset

In the scan you posted Wolverine was smiling and Blade looked scared, I don't know where you got Blade was winning that fight or was even with Wolverine.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
When Wolverine escaped custody of Shield their tactitions pegged Blade out of the entire 50 state Intitiative as has having the best shot and bringing him back in. That's pretty big imo considering the talent level they had to choose from.

They used Blade because all their real talent was out fighting Captain America and his people. 😐

Yea, that was a 24 hour a day job. 🤪

Originally posted by Don Mega
It was 616 Spiderman. You should read a Blade comic.
Dracula bit Wolverine and his healing factor didn't help him from loosing control to Dracula.
What? Vampire Wolverine would be susceptible to garlic, sunlight, silver etc. Blade carries that stuff with him. It goes with the job.
Are you paying attention to what they said? He wasn't scared! He realized he owed Logan one from awhile back.

Yea, I asked when the Spiderman thing happened, do you have any scans or a comic number?

Was Wolverine turned into a vampire when Dracula bit him, did Dracula bite him anytime within the last 5 or so years when Logan's hf is stronger than say the 80's? Again, scans or a comic number?

Ok, if Blade infected Wolverine, Wolverine could have just killed him in that instant.

Anyway, what does Blade having to infect Wolverine in an attempt to win have to do with Iron Fist?

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, I asked when the Spiderman thing happened, do you have any scans or a comic number?

Was Wolverine turned into a vampire when Dracula bit him, did Dracula bite him anytime within the last 5 or so years when Logan's hf is stronger than say the 80's? Again, scans or a comic number?

Ok, if Blade infected Wolverine, Wolverine could have just killed him in that instant.

Anyway, what does Blade having to infect Wolverine in an attempt to win have to do with Iron Fist?

and check out the respect thread, spiderman was turned in the very first issue

you should really check out the respect thread

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea, that was a 24 hour a day job. 🤪

Originally posted by jinzin
considering it was a WAR.. yeah. 😬

blade also has a healing factor to help him in this fight so he is probably more durable than ironfist

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Wolverine knew he was f*cked. That's why he didn't retaliate.

Wait.. wha? Since when has that been anything more than the one sided Blade ass whippin I remember it and turn into something to actually try and accredit the character with as win? 🤨

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yes, despite that the scan proves blade could've killed wolverine, and is equal in fighting skill with him (that is one of blades weakest incarnations as well)

😂

Oh is that so?... Well then here: You tell me at which point Blade proved he was anywhere NEAR Wolverine in terms of being an equally skilled fighter.
1. http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6048/blade1br9.jpg
2. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5559/blade2gr2.jpg
3. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5953/blade3jk6.jpg
4. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/995/blade4ev2.jpg
5. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8589/blade5md8.jpg

Was it when Wolverine tore his jacket with two warning slashes instead of killing him right off the bat?
Was it when Wolverine nicked him in the face with his claws or when he punched him in the face without them?
Had a clawless fist at Blades face.
Or when he pinned him to the ground by one hand while threatening to bring down the other?

🙄

Yeah Blade could've killed him.. y'know since they were equals an' all. 😂
About that; Wolverine could have outright killed Blade at that point with a single claw strike but opted not to. You honeslty think Blade could have taken Logan's mask off, injected him with the vamp serum, got out a stake, AND successfully staked him before Wolverine could bring down one arm? That's ludicrous. PERIOD.

I mean as you pointed out Wolverine's been bitten by Dracula and it only turned him for a few minutes. Since his secondary mutation his HF is multitudes faster than it was back then. Even with his current status it's over 3 times better than before AT LEAST. Now all he needed was one good claw strike, while Blade would not only have to get off his back and pull out a stake, but insert a stake into his heart in spite of his Adamantium ribcage/chestplate there to stop him from doing just that.

There's a reason why Wolverine's grinning at the end of that fight, and it's not because they're "equals" pffftbwahaha! That's JUST as absurd!

"We're too evenly matched"? PUH-LEASE. Wolverine curbstomped you Blade. He railed through your ass that whole fight.

That was nothing short of some Black Pantheresque bravado like "I was in no danger" when Sabretooth had him by the throat and was drawing blood.

Wolverine's one of the three top competetors for Marvel Earth's number one h2h fighter, Blade doesn't even make top 10.

Likewise, Iron Fist would decimiate Blade. Blade's not faster, or anywhere NEAR as skilled as Iron Fist. Iron Fist can shatter.. not bend, dent, or rend through, but f*cking shatter steel with an Iron Fist punch.... One hit is all he needs to end this fight... Unless of course you think Blade's also more durable than Luke Cage.

Blade doesn't fight flawlessly, Danny does. And, with is current upgrades? This might be an even worse stomp than his fight with Wolverine was. 😬

so I shoul take your word over the words of the comic itself

the fact taht was a weakened blade that stalemated wolverine, I can say yes blade is equal to wolverine

blade previous feats of super huma nspeed and strength all on par with ironfist leads me to believe blade can easily take this just as easily as ironfist could

...I havent seen any scans and such for ironfist that actually prove he is any better than blade

You must have had the special edition book Jinzin. The Wolverine fan-club edition that is.

If I had more time on my hands I'd take your post apart. But I have a life I must attend to.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.......

Wolvie was dominating the fight after having just had another one . . .

Anyway Danny would destroy blade currently.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
so I shoul take your word over the words of the comic itself

There was no impartial narrative.
The only one who thought Blade could take Wolverine was Blade. Given the entire fight that happened.. He's wrong about that.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the fact taht was a weakened blade that stalemated wolverine, I can say yes blade is equal to wolverine

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade previous feats of super huma nspeed and strength all on par with ironfist leads me to believe blade can easily take this just as easily as ironfist could

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
...I havent seen any scans and such for ironfist that actually prove he is any better than blade

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You must have had the special edition book Jinzin. The Wolverine fan-club edition that is.

If I had more time on my hands I'd take your post apart. But I have a life I must attend to.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.......

Says the guy sportin Blade in his sig...
pffft.. 🙄
Whatever; too bad that's the only version that exists.

Originally posted by jinzin
Wait.. wha? Since when has that been anything more than the one sided Blade ass whippin I remember it and turn into something to actually try and accredit the character with as win? 🤨

😂

Oh is that so?... Well then here: You tell me at which point Blade proved he was anywhere NEAR Wolverine in terms of being an equally skilled fighter.
1. http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6048/blade1br9.jpg
2. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5559/blade2gr2.jpg
3. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5953/blade3jk6.jpg
4. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/995/blade4ev2.jpg
5. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8589/blade5md8.jpg

Was it when Wolverine tore his jacket with two warning slashes instead of killing him right off the bat?
Was it when Wolverine nicked him in the face with his claws or when he punched him in the face without them?
Had a clawless fist at Blades face.
Or when he pinned him to the ground by one hand while threatening to bring down the other?

🙄

Yeah Blade could've killed him.. y'know since they were equals an' all. 😂
About that; Wolverine could have outright killed Blade at that point with a single claw strike but opted not to. You honeslty think Blade could have taken Logan's mask off, injected him with the vamp serum, got out a stake, AND successfully staked him before Wolverine could bring down one arm? That's ludicrous. PERIOD.

I mean as you pointed out Wolverine's been bitten by Dracula and it only turned him for a few minutes. Since his secondary mutation his HF is multitudes faster than it was back then. Even with his current status it's over 3 times better than before AT LEAST. Now all he needed was one good claw strike, while Blade would not only have to get off his back and pull out a stake, but insert a stake into his heart in spite of his Adamantium ribcage/chestplate there to stop him from doing just that.

There's a reason why Wolverine's grinning at the end of that fight, and it's not because they're "equals" pffftbwahaha! That's JUST as absurd!

"We're too evenly matched"? PUH-LEASE. Wolverine curbstomped you Blade. He railed through your ass that whole fight.

That was nothing short of some Black Pantheresque bravado like "I was in no danger" when Sabretooth had him by the throat and was drawing blood.

Wolverine's one of the three top competetors for Marvel Earth's number one h2h fighter, Blade doesn't even make top 10.

Likewise, Iron Fist would decimiate Blade. Blade's not faster, or anywhere NEAR as skilled as Iron Fist. Iron Fist can shatter.. not bend, dent, or rend through, but f*cking shatter steel with an Iron Fist punch.... One hit is all he needs to end this fight... Unless of course you think Blade's also more durable than Luke Cage.

Blade doesn't fight flawlessly, Danny does. And, with is current upgrades? This might be an even worse stomp than his fight with Wolverine was. 😬

Wolverine even stated he was tired and pissed at the start of the fight. But his massive healing factor should have taken care of most of his injuries he suffered against Omega Red. Wolverine had him on the ground holding him with one hand and getting ready to kill him with the other but Blade put the vial to his kneck and Logan stopped his attack. Then he let Blade go. Why the hell would Logan let somebody go who just tried to kill him?

Originally posted by Don Mega
I agree Wolverine should beat Blade or most street levelers including Iron Fist. But I don't agree with your biased view on the fight. It was closer than that and to be honest Guggenheim's Wolverine was pretty ubber iirc.

None of that was bias. That's all exactly what happened.. Exactly.

Originally posted by Don Mega
Wolverine even stated he was tired and pissed at the start of the fight. But his massive healing factor should have taken care of most of his injuries he suffered against Omega Red.

And he didn't even have time to get a decent beer?
He wasn't at 100% or anywhere close if we're to assume he was telling the truth.
Given the timeframe and his recent dealings with Omega Red there's little logical reason to assume he was lying about that.

Originally posted by Don Mega
Wolverine had him on the ground holding him with one hand and getting ready to kill him with the other but Blade put the vial to his kneck and Logan stopped his attack. Then he let Blade go. Why the hell would Logan let somebody go who just tried to kill him?

Wolverine did little more than threaten Blade so he'd stop fighting him seeing how Wolverine really wasn't looking for a fight to begin with. he held back on Blade and wasn't trying to kill the guy.. Maybe because he's a hero, maybe because he recognized the scent... Wolverine's threatened everyone from Wonderman, Colossus, Kitty Pride, and Xavier to Elektra's boyfriend just to see it they/he/she had "the stones" without any intention of attacking any one of them. He may have threatened Blade, but if he wanted Blade dead, Blade would be.

That's still all biased. All of it.

Blade wears kevlar. Sure not stronger than his claws but strong enough to take a slash. Blade stuck his sword in Logan's gut, then he slashed Blade's face with his claws. Maybe Blade rolled with the swipe? Maybe Blade should have slashed with his sword instead of stab? I've seen Logan put down by a single swipe to the gut. Logan then went for the killing swipe but Blade put the vial to his kneck and refused to inject Logan instantly. It goes both ways.

Originally posted by Don Mega
That's still all biased. All of it.

Originally posted by Don Mega
Blade wears kevlar. Sure not stronger than his claws but strong enough to take a slash.

Wolverine as been stated on panel capible of cutting through steel like ahot knife through butter. He consistently tears through Hulk. And well actually.. The entire security force that was stationed at the Weapon X facility was wearing Kevlar reinforced body armor complete with helmets. Wolverine diced them all into meatcubes. You can't honestly believe that a guy who's stated to have claws that can cut through anything can't go through Kevlar can you?

No more than I can believe that Wolverine was actually trying to hurt Blade? Can you?

Originally posted by Don Mega
Blade stuck his sword in Logan's gut, then he slashed Blade's face with his claws. Maybe Blade rolled with the swipe? Maybe Blade should have slashed with his sword instead of stab?

Maybe Blade rolled.. but I doubt it. IF Blade "should" have slashed instead of stabbed that goes farthur to prove that he's not all that when it comes to sheer skill.

Originally posted by Don Mega
I've seen Logan put down by a single swipe to the gut.

Originally posted by Don Mega
Logan then went for the killing swipe but Blade put the vial to his kneck and refused to inject Logan instantly. It goes both ways.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
actually recently I believe wolverine healing factor has had a dramtic decrease in power

and check out the respect thread, spiderman was turned in the very first issue

you should really check out the respect thread

So have you actually even read Blade comics?

ANd I take it you don't read Wolverine comics either,.

no where does it sate wolverine wasnt trying...even at the end of the fight wolverine asked why should he allow him to leave, ablde then says because they are too evenly matched

and then blade proceeds to threaten shield saying if they went after wolverine they would have to deal with him...which apparently worked

which was also ridiculous. Yeah shield's wranglin in as many super heroes and villains as they can get their hands on but they go after Wolverine and their gonna "answer" to him? BWAHAHA!

Wolverine wasn't trying. It's obvious when he's mocking Blade with "ouchie"... If he was then why did he punch Blade in the head clawless?