Thor vs Superman

yeah, but it did nothing at all to juggs. the exitar blast was a special one -- it slagged his hammer and even his belt of strength which he tied around the head! (for what purpose other than a visual, i'll never know . . . what, is the belt suppose to 'increase the hammer's strength'?) but THAT was true godforce. of course, he had to summon it and it took a long time (relatively speaking.)

the mangog blast wasn't god force -- it was some weird 'anti-force'. it was a blast of mjollnir's power, not thor's own power (least according to the book).

the rare time he's used the god force (not just some 'blast' from his hammer) it HAS taken him time to do so.

"remember that juggernaut is protected by magic from cyttorak who is a elder god and is above Odin"

That is what im asking. Did Thor already knew Juggernaut had the mistic force field and wanted to stun him, or didnt and went for the kill.

"for what purpose other than a visual, i'll never know . . . what, is the belt suppose to 'increase the hammer's strength'"

Thor`s belt increases his own strenght as far as i know.

I heard that Mangog was powered down when getting the godblast from Thor. Is that true?

<<remember that juggernaut is protected by magic from cyttorak who is a elder god and is above Odin.>>

huh? where is it ever stated that cyttorak is an 'elder god'?? it is said he MAY have been worshipped on earth as a demon or god. doesn't necessarily mean he is above odin. HOWEVER, the blast WAS useless, so you may have a point . . .

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He prays to Odin for it, right?

It's cool as hell to see. When Thor kneels down and starts whispering, you know he's ready to kick some ass.

But, yeah, it takes too long and Superman would be in space before Thor did it.

"I heard that Mangog was powered down when getting the godblast from Thor. Is that true?"

Compared with his other showings, yes.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, but it did nothing at all to juggs. the exitar blast was a special one -- it slagged his hammer and even his belt of strength which he tied around the head! (for what purpose other than a visual, i'll never know . . . what, is the belt suppose to 'increase the hammer's strength'?) but THAT was true godforce. of course, he had to summon it and it took a long time (relatively speaking.)

the mangog blast wasn't god force -- it was some weird 'anti-force'. it was a blast of mjollnir's power, not thor's own power (least according to the book).

the rare time he's used the god force (not just some 'blast' from his hammer) it HAS taken him time to do so.

it was the godforce blast that killed mangog. anti-force=godforce

Originally posted by olympian
Compared with his other showings, yes.

So wouldnt that take away some of the credibility of Thor killing him with the godblast? Just asking.

No, godforce blast it is what it is, it kills immortals, skyfarther type beings.

Jurgens Mangog wasent a weakling by any means. He was easily above the top tier. He just seemed downplayed compared with showings he had.

Still considering it took a -Godblast- to perform the deed, i dont see any other attack of the top tier or a bit above to do any better.

More than anything instead of taking credibility of Thor`s attack, it should add to Mangog`s.

I still think that Thor can beat Superman at least 7/10 if not more.

Originally posted by olympian
Jurgens Mangog wasent a weakling by any means. He was easily above the top tier. He just seemed downplayed compared with showings he had.

Still considering it took a -Godblast- to perform the deed, i dont see any other attack of the top tier or a bit above to do any better.

More than anything instead of taking credibility of Thor`s attack, it should add to Mangog`s.

I hear what youre saying but, i didnt know there were different levels of the godblast. I seem to have thought by posters on this forum that if youre at the end of a godblast, its to try and kill you. Godblast is, if not next to the last resort.

People say that a godblast is going to kill Supes. It didnt kill glads or Juggs. Then it was stated that it wasnt the intent to kill. Only against Mangog and one other. If they were godblasts, but were not intended to kill, then why do a godblast? Why not just a regular one he did against Supes?

The blast that he gave Supes in JLA/Avengers #2 wasnt a godblast, so whats the difference between that and what he gave Gladiator and/or Juggernaut? Can someone clear up the differnt levels of "godblast" please?

A regular blast from Thor's hammer is powerful because it can shot cosmic energies and mystical and it can do some damage or absorb energy projection and returning it back a t the sender 1000 fold increase the power of the blast. But as for the god blast it's a fusion of Thor's godly energies, cosmic and mystical energies into one blast and the hammer magnifies it 1000 folds

6) LIFE-FORCE, OR GOD-FORCE: Thor's immortal life force could be more powerful than the mystical properties of his hammer; that when combined with the power of his hammer can release incredible amounts of energy- Thor#388. Galactus tasted defeat when Thor used the Life Force on him- see Thor#161. Thor’s Life-Force, or God-Force, also destroyed the Brain Dome of the 20,000ft. Tall Celestial Exitar; which should be many times more durable than Adamantiun considering their thousands, if not, millions of years of technology ahead of the human race. Also, the Destroyer using ALL OF HIS POWERS at his command could not destroy Thor’s Life-Force- See Thor-#381.

29) ANTI-FORCE: The full power of the Anti-Force is so unbelievably powerful and the fury of such blast is so indescribable that Thor, with just one blast, once took out an entire Battalion of Barbarians along with Boulders, and a Giant Tank that was literally ripped to shreds against that devastating onslaught-Thor-#205. In terms of range, Thor’s Anti-Force could cover a wide area. In Thor-#207, Thor was trapped by Giant Boulders, and with just one Power-Blast the Giant Boulders were torn to pieces. Against Ego, Thor destroyed an entire Building thrown at Thor at close range with another Power-Blast-Thor-#203.

They are two different kind of attacks.
Thor NEVER used GodForce against Superman.Never.
Thor used it on Gladiator, but wasn't going for the kill.
He used it on Juggernaut, which body is make indestructible thank to Cyttorak's enchantment, and to further enhancement, the force field was up, tough Cain didn't need it, the GF just slowed his motion.

"Thorbuster" punch 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
"Thorbuster" punch 🙂

<<They are two different kind of attacks.>>

that's what i said. anti-force and godforce are different . . .

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and blowing up barbarians and busting boulders and buildings is different than putting down superman.

as far as mangog -- his origin is still up for grabs. i'm not sure he was 'powered down'. he beat the ^%$# out of thor in that arc - several times, quite easily. originally, he was thought to have drawn on hatred as a source of power, but that was never really established. we don't really know if he was at 'odin level' here, because he never had to fight anyone but thor and firelord, but he was easily beyond them both

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Thor's godforce without using the hammer. His hands are occupied. See, it's omni-directional.

He summoned a godforce blast within seconds.

That blast will certainly affect Superman. Superman loses.

Thor 7 out of 10.

Seconds?

Superman can do alot of damage in seconds.

Funny how nobody mentions Supes using his "Planet heating" heat vision...nor did he use his way faster speed advantage, nor did he vibrate invisible and intangible..etc etc.
Both characters werent used to their full potential.
And Supes fighting in sunlight and getting tired from punching THOR? That was huge PIS.
It wasnt just thor that was stupidly written.
Supes still wins most fights.