Originally posted by LarcenyThor hardly has dealt with anyone using their speed to speedblitz him. When they did it worked everytime against him.
I don't believe it does.Again, as I've pointed out, Kal is faster. However it's not enough so to make an actual difference in battle. You can ignore that fact that Thor's dealt with numerous top tiers that have in fact used speed in battle. You can ignore the fact that at one point Thor's even humiliated Hermes, and has in fact shown reflexes to deal with FLT projectiles. I'll go the logical route, Thor's capable of dealing with Kal's speed.
Do you now see the faultiness of your reasoning? Just because someone was shown to do X doesn't mean that they are doing it in a particular fight. For example, WW have FTL reflexes but Slade hit her. Does Slade move faster than light? What about about Grundy, etc?
You must know that it takes Thor much time to build up
What's funny is Mjolnir is faster than Kal, and Thor easily reacts to it all the time.http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IWhomTheGodsWouldDestroy-35.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/IWhomTheGodsWouldDestroy-36.jpg
You and all the other Thor fans are extremely funny and common. You guys always seem to misinterpret Thor scans. The scan says "with Force" and not "with enough speed". The author cleary was showing that the blow made a loud sound because of the force and not the speed. And sonic speed is nowhere near comparable light speed. Superman sees high calibur bullets (sonic speed) as in still motion.
Oh and BTW, Thor's made sonic Booms with combat speed.http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorspeed.jpg
You also confused the fighting in character rule. Superman has speedblitz people before. Just because he hasn't did it in the very beginning (he has several times though, when he was mad) doesn't mean he won't do it. Otherwise, Thor won't Godblast, BFR, etc. in the beginning either, Blackbolt won't scream in the beginning, and many others won't do their top powers in the beginning either. My friend, you forgot the whole point of this forum (and comic debating). The point is to show that based solely off of powerset who will win.
What's left to prove? He's used the Odin Power to amplify his physical attributes.He'll be able to use it. I believe you should be more worried about proving Superman's going to start the battle out with a speedblitz, something I don't believe he's ever done. Assuming we're using forum rules, he would be fighting in character.
ABC logic fails. If not then I can prove that Superman>Thor>Superman>Thor>...
Now Superman can defeat the Destroyer?
I've seen them all (I have access to nearly every best thing Thor has done). And you know what? More than half of these feats are misinterpreted, invalid, or really weak.
If you wanna feats War you won't win. I'm not bringing various, ambiguous speed feats. I'm coming armed with feats displaying Thor warping the universe, busting Celestial armor, nearly killing Galactus, etc.
Again this thread is about classic Thor and not current (look at the OP). If you want to argue current Thor you must do it in another thread.
I'm not. However I believe that accusation does fit you quite well.Unfortunately for your argument, this isn't DC comics. This wont be a physical battle, and even if it were Thor would likely win. He'd simply amplify his physical attributes beyond those of Kal's and put em to work.
Originally posted by h1a8
You and all the other Thor fans are extremely funny and common. You guys always seem to misinterpret Thor scans. The scan says "with Force" and not "with enough speed". The author cleary was showing that the blow made a loud sound because of the force and not the speed. And sonic speed is nowhere near comparable light speed. Superman sees high calibur bullets (sonic speed) as in still motion.
This is just hilarious.
Thor has virtually no speed feats, and is usually portrayed as a powerful, but not quick warrior who resorts to strength rather than nimbleness to win.
Superman has time and again demonstrated incredible feats of speed, some that rival the speedster Flash.
Yet, people are actually trying to argue that Thor can deal with Superman's speed based on the most speculative arguments. It's simply ridiculous.
Originally posted by llagrok
This is just hilarious.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor hardly has dealt with anyone using their speed to speedblitz him. When they did it worked everytime against him.Do you now see the faultiness of your reasoning? Just because someone was shown to do X doesn't mean that they are doing it in a particular fight. For example, WW have FTL reflexes but Slade hit her. Does Slade move faster than light? What about about Grundy, etc?
You must know that it takes Thor much time to build up
enough speed to hurl the hammer faster than light. Superman would have koed him in the first millisecond.
You and all the other Thor fans are extremely funny and common. You guys always seem to misinterpret Thor scans. The scan says "with Force" and not "with enough speed". The author cleary was showing that the blow made a loud sound because of the force and not the speed. And sonic speed is nowhere near comparable light speed. Superman sees high calibur bullets (sonic speed) as in still motion.
You also confused the fighting in character rule. Superman has speedblitz people before. Just because he hasn't did it in the very beginning (he has several times though, when he was mad) doesn't mean he won't do it. Otherwise, Thor won't Godblast, BFR, etc. in the beginning either, Blackbolt won't scream in the beginning, and many others won't do their top powers in the beginning either. My friend, you forgot the whole point of this forum (and comic debating). The point is to show that based solely off of powerset who will win.
ABC logic fails. If not then I can prove that Superman>Thor>Superman>Thor>...
which is nonsense.
I've seen them all (I have access to nearly every best thing Thor has done). And you know what? More than half of these feats are misinterpreted, invalid, or really weak.
Again this thread is about classic Thor and not current (look at the OP). If you want to argue current Thor you must do it in another thread.
Thanks. You saved me some typing and got to the point of these just fine.
Thor hasn't dealt with the speedblitz/strength combo of Superman. The hammer throw as a feat is hilarious...especially considering Mjolnirs properties...
Hell, he had trouble with superskrull using invisibility, and things strength..two things Superman could use to superior levels with ease.
Originally posted by Avlon
Thanks. You saved me some typing and got to the point of these just fine.Thor hasn't dealt with the speedblitz/strength combo of Superman. The hammer throw as a feat is hilarious...especially considering Mjolnirs properties...
Hell, he had trouble with superskrull using invisibility, and things strength..two things Superman could use to superior levels with ease.
How old is that scan?
k guys, this is CURRENT THOR, the one who busted the dread destroyer
with the same hammer throw that felled superman in the "infamous fight". though superman triumphed, it wasn't a flawless victory.
if regular thor can hit superman, current can and that will be all she wrote.
and thats not tacking into account the additional powers of thor the writers of the crossover "forgot" + the new ones of his father.
