THEIR INITIAL BATTLE STRATEGY
Meanwhile, Mental Madonna attacks the opposing team using both its formidable TP and TK (more on it later, but even at the most modest level available it would be enough to school BOTH Rachel and Sersi at the same time)
first, you have no real evidence that mantis would be able to control nate's power any better than nate himself. mantis spent a LIFETIME honing her OWN body and ltd mental powers. to suddenly throw in someone of nate's abilities and simply expect her to be able to control it 'perfectly' as you claim is once again VERY dubious. she certainly is not this bundle of immaterial psi-energy you're insinuating. she is a PHYSICAL being.
beyond that, rachel is currently amped by some of the phoenix force AND cerebro. to assume she isn't at the same level as god-like cable is again little more than unsubstantiated speculation. phoenix-enhanced rachel x5 (which is a ballpark for the amping cerebro would give her) would CERTAINLY be close to or exceed god-like cable. her tk was enough to stalemate GLADIATOR. not to mention that we have THREE characters at rachel's level+sersi's own vast psi powers . . . with the added durability of cerebro, rachel and company can easily match whatever you claim to have.
not that you would have anything of course . . .
assuming mantis spoke truly and her body IS literally energy, well, you're pretty screwed. vulcan alone could likely destroy you easily enough -- or better yet simply control your body. but THREE omega level energy manipulators (adaptoid, amazo, vulcan), all moving at or beyond lightspeed?? there aren't words to describe how screwed you'd be . . . and regardless of the level of tp mantis may or may not possess, it won't matter once vulcan simply performs a bit of energy-manipulating brain surgery and prevents you from accessing your powers. even assuming for a moment that in this strange world you're painting thought speed=light speed, savitar/vulcan>light speed. oh, and finding you won't be a problem -- tp is energy. you need to emit it to create your shield. vulcan can sense it. or he can simply sense the kinetic energy trail you'd leave behind. or graviton's gravitic energy. or black box uses his GL ring to find you and tells everyone where you are via tp link. anyway, once he's sensed where you are, savitar can then STEAL your kinetic energy. 🙂 once again, to savitar, you would appear to be standing still. my speed advantage is simply too great. vulcan can easily find you, he can keep you from accessing your powers, and likely dismantle or control your energy body. or perhaps i simply add speed to your brain like walter did? yeah, you are dead in a whole lotta ways.
oh, and never forget -- black box and amazo BOTH also have access to jonzz's own tp powers AND both are protected by the power of a GL ring . . .
it also creates the illusions of our team to confuse opponents and to give them fake fight if needed. 20
again, i'd love a ruling on the number of dupes. anyway, rachel would very easily be able to 'see through' whatever illusions you cast and with the speed i've added to her be able to relay that info to us well inside the first second of the battle. illusions would be less than meaningless. and for us thinking speed=reaction speed. not so with you guys whose thoughts FAR outpace your ability to act on them.
As a coup de grace, we still have Nightshade (and a few Terminatrixes with her powers) to BFR opponents into the shadows if needed. Also we keep powerhouses such as Enchanting Mary (mystical and physical powerhouse) and Graviton with his uber gravity control to smack you silly physically if needed.
seeing doesn't matter to us (though YOUR team might not like it as much . . .) and gravity is simply another form of energy. don't forget too -- reed is ALSO in vulcan's head via the tp link that has been established. vulcan will be VERY well informed in regards to what exactly he should be looking for and in terms of the nearly limitless potential for his powers. lightspeed sersi could easily match mary marvel until black box teleports in and removes mary's pretty head. AFTER he copies all her powers, of course. 🙂
Thom powers can be negated by Graviton,
bw can deal with this.
You make a big deal about your speed- well, Mental Madonna doesn't have physical body, operates on lightspeed
seriously, you need evidence to say something like this and frankly you guys have provided none at all. and again, regardless, savitar>lightspeed.
being living astral projection- intangible, invisible and ethereal to physical realm, yet taking the best of two worlds)
again, baseless extrapolation. besides, if you WERE in the astral realm, or anywhere EXCEPT the physical world, you'd be bfr'ing yourself . . .
Welcome to the world of psi-freeze, hope you enjoy it.
looks like an interesting place to visit, alas, i'll be skipping the stop. savitar/vulcan thinking speed>yours. 🙂 by now, you know the rest . . . and regardless, our THREE rachel-level psi's (+sersi) could simply overpower you telepathically anyway.
Nate is superior to Cable in terms of powerlevel, period) fighting Lightmaster- a being that moves and thinks at lightspeed.
don't see him 'thinking' at lightspeed. seems nate won via a trick anyway . . . but (one more time?) it matters not. in this battle my dear, lightspeed is simply too slow. 🙂
Of course, you may try and hurt Mental Madonna with your prized axes- that will do you no good.
oh, they'll work quite nicely. 'specially with you all frozen because you have no speed, and your psi-abilities blocked off. 😉 but vulcan would probably have more fun just ripping your energy body to pieces anyway.
The Terminatrix dupes are also have a few surprises. What's one of the easiest ways to compensate for superspeed- yes, time manipulation.
yikes, again with the crazy speculation. now during the battle you are going to create time dilation tech?? you know for a fact angie knows how to create these things? again, you need to prove she can alter herself or her dupes in such a fundamental way (or even locate the info and integrate the tech like you are suggesting) AND with anything NEARING the speed you want to do so.
Easily enough to absorb ANY energy-based attack send on us
except i'm not directing energy at you. i'm drawing it from the speed force and sharing it with my team and it would be happening so quickly you wouldn't even know it. and even supposing for an instant i WAS put in the device in some way i can't even imagine, i could simply vibrate out of it at will . . .
So...time manipulation
=self bfr once you've left our timeframe. 🙂
ability to suck in vast amouths of energy and use it to empower themselves
show me someone getting empowered again . . . and how the heck you gonna trap people who move at lightspeed or faster, have axes that can cut anything and can teleport into or out of whatever you throw at us?
I'll only touch the thing about Rachel boosted by Cerebro- well, she is still INFERIOR to Mental Madonna....
that's rach without the phoenix. with it, her tk=gladiator level strength. enhanced by phoenix and cerebro, her tp will be FAR greater than it was when she faced emma. add in the fact that since that time xavier has also given her a great deal more training in the mindscape, (preparing her for going after vulcan), and she is also far more SKILLED than she was.
my rachel>>>>>>>>>rachel in any of your scans
And as for Malefic- his TP is getting
shut down by vulcan or amazo or adaptoid? ✅ (scan readily available if needed)
But engineered using knowledge on psi-amplifiers from Marvelverse and Martian technology, courtesy of information received during prep.
umm, yeah. you're gonna really need to somehow NOT make that whole thing seem nonsensical by giving everyone a rational explanation for just how you get the psi-tech info and the adaptoid info . . .
You're SEVERELY outgunned in terms of TP.
nah, not at all. 3 rachels+sersi>your martian+nate. especially once all your psi-powers have been turned off inside the first second of the battle. 😉
and it's important not to lose track of black box in this. he possesses the core powers of the jla, all of my team's powers and all of bw's team's powers. moments into the match he will ALSO possess all of YOUR team's powers. the GL ring will let him find your team almost instantly and provide protection against anything you can throw at him. our speed and teleportation gives us infinite flexibility and maneuverability, our axes mean we kill you at will when we hit you -- and you have no way to fend us off. our combined psi-powers>yours AND we can shut yours off.
bw can expand a bit more on our offensive capabilities, but in essence it boils down to the fact that in every conceiveable way we are superior to you.
