Originally posted by DigiMark007
Problem there deano, is that if you never listen to anyone else's ideas (some of which can be well thought out) and you only come up with your own ideas, chances are most of yours are going to be very, very wrong. Listening to an intellectual position isn't the same as accepting it. You have the skeptical part down pat, which is good because being critical is good. But you've taken it a step too far into cynicism where apparently any thought that isn't original is a blasphemy against individuality.Skakya isn't pretending to be a master....just someone with a different viewpoint.
i understand. but i do listen to other peoples opinions when they are made up of some kind of common sense. shak didnt explain is views on oneness . he just made a comment which suggested he knew it all
Originally posted by Deano
and you obviously do? teach me oh guru
First, what does oneness have to do with worship?
Originally posted by Tex
Yeah! Skakya's too busy pretending to be human! Everyone knows he's a shape shifting reptilian from Alpha Draconis! 😖hifty:
Hey! that is not true... no matter what they say...😏
Deano has a point. While I'm not always one to say that people should copy and paste explainations for their ideologies, as it tends to represent that the person doesn't know how to digest and then express them in their own words; but you did say that you don't believe in reincarnation but use the term because others don't understand what you mean when you say Simultaneous Incarnation. Don't you think it's important to say what you mean and mean what you say?
I think part of it is that we've all elucidated our beliefs at least 1-2 times on this forum, but not everyone's read it all. So we get lax occasionally and summarize, rather than spelling it all out every time. Happens to me frequently, and shakya's more active on this forum than I am.
So you have a point, but I think we have to realize that it's easy to infer things in typed language that aren't actually there. I highly doubt shakya wanted to come off as elitist or smug, though that's what deano assumed it was. A respectful request for clarification goes a long way rather than attempting to take the moral high ground based on an ambiguous inference.
Originally posted by Devil King
Deano has a point. While I'm not always one to say that people should copy and paste explainations for their ideologies, as it tends to represent that the person doesn't know how to digest and then express them in their own words; but you did say that you don't believe in reincarnation but use the term because others don't understand what you mean when you say Simultaneous Incarnation. Don't you think it's important to say what you mean and mean what you say?
Yes, I wish I could. But I would then sound like Deb.
I choose to use expedient means. I've spent a lot of time trying to internalize concepts that are difficult to understand, and there is a lot that I am still learning. Sometimes you learn by making mistakes.
Do you understand Simultaneous Incarnation? It's just another way of looking at reincarnation. To us flatlanders, reincarnation and Simultaneous Incarnation look the same.
Originally posted by Deano
it has nothing to do with oneness
The statements you have made in this thread (at the beginning) are true to a point, but you fall off the deep end by grouping all religions into on bucket.
You have put con artists in with the master, disciple relationship. Sure there are a lot of con artists out there, but they are not restricted to religion. There are a lot of books about aliens and what not, that are just as evil in their outcome as what you have claimed above. However, we cannot always do everything by ourselves. It is not in our nature. We need other people. The master, disciple relationship is a very important part of growth. Without it many will be lot, and devote their time to silliness.
In the proper master, disciple relationship it is the master that serves the disciple, not the other way around. What you are suggesting is like saying we don't need teacher in schools. We will simply place the books on the desks and let the students do as they please.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, I wish I could. But I would then sound like Deb.I choose to use expedient means. I've spent a lot of time trying to internalize concepts that are difficult to understand, and there is a lot that I am still learning. Sometimes you learn by making mistakes.
Do you understand Simultaneous Incarnation? It's just another way of looking at reincarnation. To us flatlanders, reincarnation and Simultaneous Incarnation look the same.
No, I don't understand it. This is why I think that if you do and it's something to which you ascribe, it would benefit us all if you just explained what you meant, rather than substituting words to make it easier.
Originally posted by Devil King
No, I don't understand it. This is why I think that if you do and it's something to which you ascribe, it would benefit us all if you just explained what you meant, rather than substituting words to make it easier.
What are you talking about and what does it have to do with this thread?
If you really, must know, then send me money. 😆
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What are you talking about and what does it have to do with this thread?If you really, must know, then send me money. 😆
I'm saying that you said you use the term reincarnation because most people don't know what Simultaneous Incarnation is. I am one of those people who don't know what it is. I think others might benefit from an explaination. So, I'm saying why don't you explain it to us.
Originally posted by Devil King
I'm saying that you said you use the term reincarnation because most people don't know what Simultaneous Incarnation is. I am one of those people who don't know what it is. I think others might benefit from an explaination. So, I'm saying why don't you explain it to us.
I think I did that when I first started posting here on the forum, and no one understood what I was talking about. I don't want to waist my time.