Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
no the comics you can pretty muc hinterpret as your own ,many super heroes who dont have super speed have een said to go super fast mainly because of their skill
Not when the comic is blatently and repeatidly showing you the character's ability to exceed the limits defined by a handbook, whether through artistic interpretation or narrative.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
unless the speed or strength is quantifiable and contradicts a bio I'd say the bio is more reliable
Based on what?
The fact that it has "Official" written accross the cover. Does that make it any MORE "official" than events that take place in 616 cannon? I don't think it does... And that doesn't just stand for Wolverine.
The strength ratings that Snoopdog posted were massively innaccurate accross the board. You've got Powerman at three tons when he was overpowering Spidey? Namor at 40 when even some of his lower end out of water showings got him at least lifting 60? Vermin at 1,000 pounds? The creature that overpowered Spiderman AND the Lizard? Namorita at 10 tons when she's single handedly tossin buses down the street?! Captain America below 1,000 pounds when we've seen him benching 100 pounds more than that while having a conversation totally lackingin exertion? Doc Samson at 25 tons? Doc Samson?!?! Werewolf at a full moon at 1 ton when he's overpowering Sabretooth, taking down Wendigo, and throwing aroundGhost Rider? Man-Thing can't lift more than 1,000 pounds in spite of being of variable "brick" strength his whole existence? Vindicator at 4 tons when he's sent enemies flying 3 miles with an attack? And Kingpin under 1,000 pounds when the majority of his career has been grossly superhuman in strength.
The thing is, these rankings on characters are no more suitable to use than the 616 comics that showcase the capabilites of said characters they're in.
A writer writes the handbook stats as one does a comic. Handbooks are fine to get a general idea on a character's background an general capabilites but at the end of the day they have the same purpose as comics do which is to make money. They are no more canon nor official than comics, and when you consider the fact that the sheer number of characters AND their feats which contradict handbook statements with comic book showings ranges in the hundreds UPON hundreds you begin to see handbooks for what they are, unreliable for an absolute truth.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
As for his speed and strength, wolverine has done nothing to put himself ahead of blade in terms of speed in strength, blades strength is about one ton, unless you have scans showing him able to lift about that weight I'd say blade is stronger
Wolverine has carried Hulk who weighs 1,000 pounds with no problem, he's tossed a garbage bin (1'600 lbs) across an ally with one hand without straining himself whatsoever, he's broken out of "unbreakable" chains numerous times, even some that have held Beast, he's held an elevator full of people, and slung a 1000 pound shark out of the water at high velocity with no foot leverage.. He's very easily past a ton, and in all probability closer to two.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
as for speed, both blades speed feats and wolverines speed feats are o npar, in fact the world has been said to "slow down" for blade when he moves (he has been able to leave after images that his opponents attacked and come from behind his opponent)
Who was a nobody, Wolverine and Cap have moved so fast that they dissapeared in front of their opponents.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
again none of this puts blade far above wolverine, since wolverine durability and skill I'd put them about euqal
Those are just the icing on the cake... And they are far from equal.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yet it's blade guns that really give him the edge (X-23 has also shown t obe able to work around wolverine healing factor)
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🤨 HOW? Guns don't tend to work on Wolverine for the majority so I fail to see this... "edge".
X-23 was able to do so with dirt in a fight that Wolverine not only didn't want to fight, but also could have ended before it got started. Given that Wolverine wouldn't be holding back on Blade to give him a message and because he felt sorry/responsible for Blade, and given that if Blade used that strategy Wolverine would catch on a lot faster than before... We can reason that your appeal to x-23's feat is meaningless here.
