Gohan VS Superman

Started by Kento3 pages

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Well I see mister excessive reported has refused to listen tor reason again.

HAHAHAHAH, Gohan had one arm, he wasn't at full chi, and he was demoralized, I doubt he won the beam struggle out of superior power.

Because Gohan wasn't already SO much more powerful than Cell as it was. And Gohan is nearly 90% of the time holding back. Then there was the fact Gokou was there helping out. Gohan calmed down again that was the only reason he lost his ki.

Still what about the fact Kid Buu's ki ball > Cell's Kamehameha.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Well I see mister excessive reported has refused to listen tor reason again.
No, you're the one not listening to reason. You gubllibly beliving in a known liar's lies. You still have not proven his statments to be true. He has a history of lieing. The effects after the fight and even during the fight came nowhere near destroying the solar system. The only thing that was destroyed was cell. But that still wasn't anywhere close to 100,000 AU whihch is the diameter of the solar system. it wasn't even one AU.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
HAHAHAHAH, Gohan had one arm, he wasn't at full chi, and he was demoralized, I doubt he won the beam struggle out of superior power.
He basically beat cell with "one arm tied behind his back" almost literally.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
How could he be lying if he didn't know?????

Originally posted by Creshosk
Time for a quick English lesson:
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/lie_2?view=uk

noun 1 an intentionally false statement. 2 a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/52/L0155200.html
lie2, equivocate, fib, palter, prevaricate These verbs mean to evade or depart from the truth:
a witness who lied under oath; didn't equivocate about her real purpose; fibbed to escape being scolded; paltering with an irate customer; didn't prevaricate but answered honestly.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lie&r=66
http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/lie
lie1 /laɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, lied, ly·ing.
–noun 1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
–verb (used without object) 5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
6. to express what is false; convey a false impression.
–verb (used with object) 7. to bring about or affect by lying (often used reflexively): to lie oneself out of a difficulty; accustomed to lying his way out of difficulties.
—Idioms8. give the lie to, a. to accuse of lying; contradict.
b. to prove or imply the falsity of; belie: His poor work gives the lie to his claims of experience.

9. lie in one's throat or teeth, to lie grossly or maliciously: If she told you exactly the opposite of what she told me, she must be lying in her teeth. Also, lie through one's teeth.

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[Origin: bef. 900; (n.) ME; OE lyge; c. G Lüge, ON lygi; akin to Goth liugn; (v.) ME lien, OE léogan (intransit.); c. G lügen, ON ljûga, Goth liugan]

—Synonyms 1. prevarication, falsification. See falsehood. 5. prevaricate, fib.
—Antonyms 1. truth.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=lie

lie (v.1)
"speak falsely," O.E. legan, ligan, earlier leogan (class II strong verb; past tense leag, pp. logen), from P.Gmc. *leugan (cf. O.N. ljuga, Dan. lyve, O.Fris. liaga, Ger. lügen, Goth. liugan), from PIE base *leugh- "to tell a lie."
lie (n.)
"an untruth," O.E. lyge, from P.Gmc. *lugin (cf. O.N. lygi, Dan. l¸gn, O.Fris. leyne, Ger. Lüge, Goth. liugn). To give the lie to "accuse directly of lying" is attested from 1593. Lie-detector first recorded 1909.

Also note:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictiona...p;va=trash+talk
Main Entry: trash talk
Function: noun
Date: 1981
: disparaging, taunting, or boastful comments especially between opponents trying to intimidate each other
— trash–talk \ˈtrash-ˌtȯk\ verb
— trash–talk·er \-ˌtȯ-kər\ noun

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Well I see mister excessive reported has refused to listen tor reason again.

How could he be lying if he didn't know?????

Cocky has nothing to do with it.

HAHAHAHAH, Gohan had one arm, he wasn't at full chi, and he was demoralized, I doubt he won the beam struggle out of superior power.

Um Calm down? Its a little argument its not like it matters anyway.

Originally posted by Kento
Because Gohan wasn't already SO much more powerful than Cell as it was. And Gohan is nearly 90% of the time holding back. Then there was the fact Gokou was there helping out. Gohan calmed down again that was the only reason he lost his ki.

Still what about the fact Kid Buu's ki ball > Cell's Kamehameha.

Gohan was so much more powerful than Perfect Cell, if you didn't notice Super Perfect was stronger.

Cell had no reason to lie, so I doubt he did for the **** of it.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Gohan was so much more powerful than Perfect Cell, if you didn't notice Super Perfect was stronger.

Cell had no reason to lie, so I doubt he did for the **** of it.

And a calm Gohan matched his Kamehameha perfectly still. Angry Gohan is a lot more powerful than a calm Gohan. Regular SSJ Gohan was already strong enough to fight Cell evenly so what difference does it make when Cell came back stronger when Gohan was also stronger at ssj2?

And you are ignoring the fact. Kid Buu's blast only destroyed Earth yet it was much, much more powerful than Cell's Kamehameha.

Originally posted by Kento
And a calm Gohan matched his Kamehameha perfectly still. Angry Gohan is a lot more powerful than a calm Gohan. Regular SSJ Gohan was already strong enough to fight Cell evenly so what difference does it make when Cell came back stronger when Gohan was also stronger at ssj2?

And you are ignoring the fact. Kid Buu's blast only destroyed Earth yet it was much, much more powerful than Cell's Kamehameha.

Your underestimating Cell's power up by a long shot. And Perfect Cell was MUCH stronger than MSSJ Gohan.

And Boo's blast wasn't full power, what makes you think it was stronger than Cell's kamehameha??

And Creshosk, I'd hate to make you feel bad, but that beloved post you keep bringing up doesn't prove ANYTHING.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Your underestimating Cell's power up by a long shot. And Perfect Cell was MUCH stronger than MSSJ Gohan.

And Boo's blast wasn't full power, what makes you think it was stronger than Cell's kamehameha??

And Creshosk, I'd hate to make you feel bad, but that beloved post you keep bringing up doesn't prove ANYTHING.

So that's why Gohan could dodged Cell and wasn't hurt by any of his ki attacks or anything until he started squeezing him. Because Cell was so much stronger. And calm SSJ2 Gohan with one arm still blocked Super Perfect Cell's Kamehameha with his own.

And Gokou and Vegeta in the Buu Saga were stronger than Super Perfect Cell yet they specifically said they couldn't block that attack. What do you think makes me say that?

Originally posted by Kento
So that's why Gohan could dodged Cell and wasn't hurt by any of his ki attacks or anything until he started squeezing him. Because Cell was so much stronger. And calm SSJ2 Gohan with one arm still blocked Super Perfect Cell's Kamehameha with his own.

And Gokou and Vegeta in the Buu Saga were stronger than Super Perfect Cell yet they specifically said they couldn't block that attack. What do you think makes me say that?

They couldn't block Cell's attack either at that point in time. And Vegeta literally destroyed Boo's first attack which was just as strong.

Um...Gokou and Vegeta were both STRONGER than Gohan was during the Cell Saga so yes they could have. Even the weakest Buu was much stronger than Cell. And Vegeta blew up the first attack because it wasn't as powerful. That's why they didn't get scared until Kid Buu used the huge attack.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Your underestimating Cell's power up by a long shot. And Perfect Cell was MUCH stronger than MSSJ Gohan.

And Boo's blast wasn't full power, what makes you think it was stronger than Cell's kamehameha??

And Creshosk, I'd hate to make you feel bad, but that beloved post you keep bringing up doesn't prove ANYTHING.

It proves what a lie is. Cell lied frequently. Each of those statements was a lie.

You sure are desperate for that to be true.

"He had no reason to lie."

Its called trash talking. The Villians in DBZ boasted about their powers all the time. Claiming themselves to be the strongest, or the fastest, or that they were unbeatable. OBviously all of that was proven to be garbage.

Just like Cell telling People that he was unkillable. That was false as he got killed. He said that Gohan had no way to beat him. Gohan beat him so that was obviously a lie.

What was his motivation for those lies? None. Does that automatically make them true? No. As they were still lies, they were things he was still wrong about.

You have yet to prove that his kamehameha was indeed solar system destroying. And yes the burden of proof is on your shoulders as that was no 15,000,000,000,000 kilometer wide blast... That's about the diameter of the solar system. It wasn't even 150,000,000 kilometers. There is no way that it was enough to destroy the solar system. And you are sorely deluded if you think it was that big or powerful.

Cell did not tell the truth. What was the motivation for him to tell them the truth? None. What was the motivation for him to lie? Arrogance or Trash talking.

So he actually had more motive to lie as there was no reason for him to tell the truth.

mmm I can't believe another thread like this was made.

Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
mmm I can't believe another thread like this was made.
Especially with this Decree by WrathfulDwarf

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Open another thread like this and you get banned.

Superman can resist it and break Goku's jaw in pieces.

Deal with it.

Closing.

As you can see in the poll. Superman wins.

Closing.