Re: Worst Artisit
Originally posted by Kazenji
Which artist/s art are you not a big fan ofAs of late for me i'm not a big fan of Howard Chaykin art.
I do not mean to demean anyone's opinions in anyway, so please nobody take it that way.
But I disagree with most opinions here. Just because an artist doesn't depict a human or animal in a realistic manner does not make him or her a bad artist.
Angel Medina is one if the most celebrated artists in mainstream comic book art, yet his proportions and detail are exxagerated to such extremes. Yet everyone loves him.
Exxageration or distortion of proportions or detail doesn't make art bad. Every artist has a style, and he or she makes choices for thier own reasons.
I used to hate Angel Medina's work, but now I've grown to love it. I understand him so much better than I did when I was younger. If you look up the Mannerist era in European Art, you will see that there is an abundance of exxageration and distortion, yet this is considered one of the greatest revolutionary movements in art history.
As long as an artist can make something dynamic, then he or she is okay in my book.
Everyone loves Lucifer Morningstar, but I haven't heard anyone complain about the art. In my opinion, it's wayyy too simplistic, and my little sister can draw more realistic than the artist here could.
However, at the same time, the art is beautiful.
So All I am asking is that if you seek to take the role of "art critic", try to understand what the artist is actually doing. This idea that art has to look "real" is a very amature and outdated perspective.
Try to look deeper into what's going on. 🙂
Re: Re: Worst Artisit
Originally posted by LatinoStallion
So All I am asking is that if you seek to take the role of "art critic", try to understand what the artist is actually doing. This idea that art has to look "real" is a very amature and outdated perspective.Try to look deeper into what's going on. 🙂
The word "real" was not used a single time in his post. You're projecting.
Also, what is the deeper meaning of this?
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg22.jpg
Or this?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/dantezinferno/LiefieldsCaptainAmerica.jpg
Re: Re: Re: Worst Artisit
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The word "real" was not used a single time in his post. You're projecting.
My mistake. I assumed that might have been an issue because I hear it so often.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Also, what is the deeper meaning of this?
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg22.jpgOr this?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/dantezinferno/LiefieldsCaptainAmerica.jpg
😆
I didn't say "deeper" meaning. I said every artist has a different style. Sometimes an artist focuses more on line than color, other times an artist focuses more on arrangment of shapes than connection between line, and etc.etc.
That doesn't mean you have to like it.
But many assume that because an artist exxagerates features or proportions, or whatever, that he or she doesn't know how to draw. That may not always be the case. Often, very often, these artists draw that way on purpose.
Now, I know it the comic book world, that can be a problem, because the fanbase is usually younger, and as a reader, you naturally care more about the narrative and illustration of the story, than the artist's desire to experiment with the formalism.
The Captain America pic is definately out of proportion, and annoyingly so, but if that is how the artist chooses to represent characters, than its his/her right, and it is Marvel who is responsible for publishing the work. Marvel must have a reason for allowing artists too express themselves in that way.
Look up Angel Medina's work. Tell me what you think.
But....Sorry...I will clarify that I am not crazy about those two works posted. Just my preference.
The Captain America has bad proportion, but the colorist did a great job, and the penciler obviously knows how to draw faces and bodies, but for whatever reason he blew the proportions out of control.
Michelangelo did the same thing towards the Mannerist period *
The penciller may have created a work which is not satisfiable, but that does not render him a "bad artist".
Originally posted by LatinoStallion
The penciller may have created a work which is not satisfiable, but that does not render him a "bad artist".
Truth be told, I don't mind exxageration at all. One of my favorite artists happens to be Mike Mignola, who is far from realistic when he draws Hellboy. Even in Seed of Destruction, his least cartoony arc, there's still plenty of "unrealistic" style. However, said style doesn't offend my sensibilities and the way I look at a person.
Someone like Frank Quitely, on the other hand, does. I despise him solely for the way he specifically draws humans, from bodily build to facial features. I geniunely wish Bryan Hitch could've kept doing the art on the Authority when Millar came aboard. The only time that Quitely's work hasn't made me want to puke and then tear apart the comic I was reading was his work on New X-Men with Grant Morrison. That was, IMO, his best work and least offensive looking when compared to what else he's done.
Originally posted by cyberborg84Truth be told, I don't mind exxageration at all. One of my favorite artists happens to be Mike Mignola, who is far from realistic when he draws Hellboy. Even in Seed of Destruction, his least cartoony arc, there's still plenty of "unrealistic" style. However, said style doesn't offend my sensibilities and the way I look at a person.
Someone like Frank Quitely, on the other hand, does. I despise him solely for the way he specifically draws humans, from bodily build to facial features. I geniunely wish Bryan Hitch could've kept doing the art on the Authority when Millar came aboard. The only time that Quitely's work hasn't made me want to puke and then tear apart the comic I was reading was his work on New X-Men with Grant Morrison. That was, IMO, his best work and least offensive looking when compared to what else he's done.
You make a good argument. I am not going to try to refute you, because your opinion is your own and right to have.
Alex Ross, in my opinion, is a great artist, but it annoys me when they always employ him for a special DC project. The problem I have with DC employing him is that his work is too realistic.
It takes away from the whole comic book feel sometimes. The costumes look so spandex like, and everything looks too "classic". It becomes harder to take the story seriously. That's just me.
So far, Angel Medina, Phillip Tan, Greg Capullo, and Jim Starlin are like my favorite artists.
Oh yeah and whoever the artist was who did Negation. Hellz yeah 👆
Re: Re: Re: Worst Artisit
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosThat anyone can be a comic book artist. Truly. none
The word "real" was not used a single time in his post. You're projecting.Also, what is the deeper meaning of this?
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/JLA_93_Pyrate-DCP_pg22.jpgOr this?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/dantezinferno/LiefieldsCaptainAmerica.jpg
Originally posted by Martian_mind🤨
I have to cosign with Coady on Alex R....He does Great covers,but his interior art is just bleh to me.
The interior art is drawn just like the covers.
Re: Worst Artisit
Originally posted by Kazenji
Which artist/s art are you not a big fan ofAs of late for me i'm not a big fan of Howard Chaykin art.
Me neither.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=436756&highlight=Chaykin+forumid%3A95
Re: Worst Artisit
Originally posted by Kazenji
Which artist/s art are you not a big fan ofAs of late for me i'm not a big fan of Howard Chaykin art.
Lol I was looking for this thead so I could complain about this artist and somebody beat me to it.
I knew I hated the artist but I didn't know what his name was coincedently im not the only one.
There was a fill in artist in Cable and Deadpool who did an issue or two and he was a BAD Liefeld clone. That's right, a pale imitation of Liefeld! I forget his name but he has to be one of the worst... or maybe that guy Brett Booth.
And I also hate Romita Jr's work, it is just so flat an uninspired, no sense of depth to it at all.
Re: Re: Worst Artisit
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Lol I was looking for this thead so I could complain about this artist and somebody beat me to it.I knew I hated the artist but I didn't know what his name was coincedently im not the only one.
I agree that his current work is awful but I think you should read the Scorpio Connection. Chaykin's art in that is fantastic, I think he really needs to have the right person colouring his work for it to work properly.