Unicron vs Dreaming Celestial

Originally posted by LORD B

unicron was destroying universes,

also the original unicron destroyed all of creation.

Unicron has never destroyed all of creation in Marvel,
Uni did take out the Transformers' universe though,
which to them, was all of creation perhaps, so I guess if you mean it that way, it's cool.

Unicron.

Idk just something about Unicron being a machine and A celetial being a cosmic being. I just theink celest > unicron idk but i don't know much about unicron except that transformers movie. Like imagine a bigass sentinel....

Comic Unicron was also cosmic being who existed before the current Transformer Universe and had destroyed the previous one.The Unicron from the movie was a lot weaker and was created by a scientist named Primacon to destroy the universe and was just a giant robot and not a God.Really the only thing shown capable of destroying Unicron was the Creation Matrix which holds the essence and power of Primus who is Unicrons twin.

And I think Unicron in terms of raw power is even stronger than Primus(could be wrong though).

Unicron stomps

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not too sure about that friend B.

Unicron has never destroyed all of creation in Marvel,
Uni did take out the Transformers' universe though,
which to them, was all of creation perhaps, so I guess if you mean it that way, it's cool.

I say this because not only did Transformers used to be a Marvel publication, but in one of the first issues [before the 'retcon'], Spider-Man appeared throughout the whole issue:

[so unless he can reality-hop, then...] *shrugs*

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Heck,
back then Primus' destiny was to become one with the "Omniversal Matrix":

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Anywho, here's some Unicron...

"Every planet, whole Galaxies, even the stuff of space itself -- gone, destroyed, consumed!"

After Unicron awoke from his slumber to find a new Universe in the old one's place...

"... He did not question why -- he simply began to destroy it all over again":

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Don't really care much about the whole "what universe did he really destroy" argument... but Unicron does take this, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
The 'pre-retcon' Transformers Universe, [and by 'pre-retcon' Universe, I mean before the company that owned the rights to Tranformers told Marvel they didn't want the Transformers interfering with Marvel characters], could have easily been seen as the 'canon' Marvel-verse... if only for a short while..

I say this because not only did Transformers used to be a Marvel publication, but in one of the first issues [before the 'retcon'], Spider-Man appeared throughout the whole issue:

[so unless he can reality-hop, then...] *shrugs*

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Heck,
back then Primus' destiny was to become one with the "Omniversal Matrix":

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Anywho, here's some Unicron...

"Every planet, whole Galaxies, even the stuff of space itself -- gone, destroyed, consumed!"

After Unicron awoke from his slumber to find a new Universe in the old one's place...

"... He did not question why -- he simply began to destroy it all over again":

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Don't really care much about the whole "what universe did he really destroy" argument... but Unicron does take this, imo.

To add to that...

Here's Ratchet in the savage land...directly PRIOR to an avengers arc (stated on the lower left of the scan.)

Shockwave in the savage land, in which it is stated that in present day, Ka-zar lives there.

Circuit breaker also met with the Beyonder.

w00t

Originally posted by Mr Master

Uni did take out the Transformers' universe though

There is no evidence of Unicron taking out anything more than the Transformers reality,
I agree, he defitemly took put the T-verse,
but there is no bio that even confirms that a historical event within Marvel.

But that aside,
it's not surprising to me at all that Spiderman or other cameo's have been made,
whether it was Circuit Breaker in Secret Wars or whatever,
cats make appearances within other universes all the time.

death's head (the original) still retains transformers stuff in his bio to this day so it is canon.

unicron for the win, unless the celestials have a spare matrix of leadership......you never know. 😉

It will be a mighty battle, whoever wins. Tiamut may be able to give Uni as good of a fight as Primus did.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
death's head (the original) still retains transformers stuff in his bio to this day so it is canon.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

death's head (the original) still retains transformers stuff in his bio to this day so it is canon.

Originally posted by King Kandy
It will be a mighty battle, whoever wins. Tiamut may be able to give Uni as good of a fight as Primus did.

..............🤨 Did you not read the panels? Unicron devoured a universe at the very least. The entire celestial host isn't capable of that level of power.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have his bio, I'll read it momentarily,
but I don't doubt Unicron destroying the Transformers Universe at all,
I'm sure he did it withIN Marvel,
but it was just the T-verse though,
[B]not the Marvel Multiverse let-alone the Omniverse (all creation/existence/reality) [/B]

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
..............🤨 Did you not read the panels? Unicron devoured a universe at the very least. The entire celestial host isn't capable of that level of power.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Unicron destroys the universe over a long time period, destroying planets one by one.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Nah, Franklin Richards can create pocket universes and he isn't even Celestial level yet. Tiamut is one of the strongest celestials. Unicron destroys the universe over a long time period, destroying planets one by one.

Long period of time? Where'd you get that conclusion?

Originally posted by Galan007
I'd like to know how you gathered this?