God and Mammals?

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Re: God and Mammals?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
What makes God treat the human mammal different than the other mammal in his kingdom? In the Bible it says that the animals will have a place in heaven but they do not have to follow any of the laws set forth by God so what makes it different that humans have to? Why would God give the free will and a sprit/soul to one and not all of his creations?

Now I know the first argument will be that humans are not mammals/animals but let us take a look at what all mammals have in common.

Hair: All mammals have hair, so do humans
Milk: The female of the species produce milk for the young, so do humans
Jaw Bone: The jaw bone is a single bone, so do humans
Middle Ear: The middle ear has 3 bones, so do humans
Heart: The mail artery leaving the heart curves to the left, so do humans
Diaphragm: Mammals have a diaphragm, so do humans
Body Temperature: Mammals maintain a constant body temperature, so do humans
Young: Mammals fertilize their young internally, so do humans
Brain: Mammals have larger brain size, so do humans
Teeth: Teeth are a different sizes and functions, so do humans

So why are we treated different in the eyes of God, what made us special that we could suffer his wraith and not the other mammals?


There is a very simple answer, Humans were made in the image and likeness of God, and so they posses things (such as rational souls) that mammals (or animals in general) lack. This is why Humans are special in the eyes of God.

There's other rational animals, and also those who possess limited amounts of consciousness. It's not an all or nothing scenario with these things, it's a spectrum. We just happen to be at the higher end of it, thanks to the neural complexity that we've evolved.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
There's other rational animals, and also those who possess limited amounts of consciousness. It's not an all or nothing scenario with these things, it's a spectrum. We just happen to be at the higher end of it, thanks to the neural complexity that we've evolved.

Notice how I said "rational souls ". Its not a matter of biology, in this case, but a matter of theology.

Re: Re: God and Mammals?

Originally posted by Transfinitum
There is a very simple answer, Humans were made in the image and likeness of God, and so they posses things (such as rational souls) that mammals (or animals in general) lack. This is why Humans are special in the eyes of God.

Souls do not exist. Please prove me wrong. We are mammals. 😛

Re: Re: Re: God and Mammals?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Souls do not exist. Please prove me wrong. We are mammals. 😛

Very well then, if you do not believe in souls then there still is the fact that humans were made in the IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD. That also explains why God views humans as special, for they are to closet creations to Him.

Originally posted by Transfinitum
Very well then, if you do not believe in souls then there still is the fact that humans were made in the IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD. That also explains why God views humans as special, for they are to closet creations to Him.
So God is a mammal??? 😕

Originally posted by Da Pittman
So God is a mammal??? 😕
Good point...

He is half mamal.. 😕

Originally posted by Da Pittman
What makes God treat the human mammal different than the other mammal in his kingdom?

I enjoyed this thread; excellent questions!

Simply said, human beings are made in the image of Almighty God. Human beings have conscience; human beings have "souls," and inherently, experience the sense of morality. For example, all man has intrinsic value--the right to freedom and happiness. [Note: Morality does not require teaching.]

Originally posted by Da Pittman
In the Bible it says that the animals will have a place in heaven but they do not have to follow any of the laws set forth by God so what makes it different that humans have to?

This--I am sorry--is a loaded question. It is dogmatic to assume animals reside in heaven after death.

Please read: "Do pets/animals go to Heaven? Do pets/animals have souls?"

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Why would God give the free will and a sprit/soul to one and not all of his creations?

Human beings are made in the image of Almighty God; think of human beings are more advanced, and therefore, have separate standards.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Now I know the first argument will be that humans are not mammals/animals but let us take a look at what all mammals have in common.

Hair: All mammals have hair, so do humans
Milk: The female of the species produce milk for the young, so do humans
Jaw Bone: The jaw bone is a single bone, so do humans
Middle Ear: The middle ear has 3 bones, so do humans
Heart: The mail artery leaving the heart curves to the left, so do humans
Diaphragm: Mammals have a diaphragm, so do humans
Body Temperature: Mammals maintain a constant body temperature, so do humans
Young: Mammals fertilize their young internally, so do humans
Brain: Mammals have larger brain size, so do humans
Teeth: Teeth are a different sizes and functions, so do humans

Human beings are mammals; but humans beings are "soulish" creatures. I can elaborate if need be.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
So why are we treated different in the eyes of God, what made us special that we could suffer his wraith and not the other mammals?

Humans beings are not robots; human beings have souls, and therefore, have a sense of morality--right and wrong. Human beings have options--a choice. Humans beings are "instinctively" aware of Almighty God. Animals are not.

Speaking of souls again. It does not mean a spirit, only life of the body.

According to the Bible god made everything and said it was good. Animals give pleasure. Would god keep pleasure away from man in heaven?

How so?

Originally posted by ushomefree
How so?
The original Hebrew stated in many scriptures that a soul mean life/lives.

Though I do not know the scriptures, but can look them up, it was said that many souls died during the time of Moses and his travels. There are many such saying in the Old Testiment. One is "and god breathed a soul into Adam." Meaning that Adam was now a living being. "And Adam became a living soul."
If I remember correctly.

Yes, that is correct. But what is your point?

Originally posted by ushomefree
Yes, that is correct. But what is your point?

Humans beings are not robots; human beings have souls, and therefore, have a sense of morality--right and wrong. Human beings have options--a choice. Humans beings are "instinctively" aware of Almighty God. Animals are not.

Souls do not have intelligence nor morals.

Originally posted by ushomefree
I enjoyed this thread; excellent questions!

Simply said, human beings are made in the image of Almighty God. Human beings have conscience; human beings have "souls," and inherently, experience the sense of morality. For example, all man has intrinsic value--the right to freedom and happiness. [Note: Morality does not require teaching.]

Morality is taught and is learned it is not something that you are born with, please show me other wise.

Originally posted by ushomefree
This--I am sorry--is a loaded question. It is dogmatic to assume animals reside in heaven after death.

Please read: "Do pets/animals go to Heaven? Do pets/animals have souls?"

Then read this
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/w/w_lasalle/

Originally posted by ushomefree
Human beings are made in the image of Almighty God; think of human beings are more advanced, and therefore, have separate standards.
How are humans more advanced than animals? I can name of a myriad of things that animals are more advance then humans.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Human beings are mammals; but humans beings are "soulish" creatures. I can elaborate if need be.
Please do

Originally posted by ushomefree
Humans beings are not robots; human beings have souls, and therefore, have a sense of morality--right and wrong. Human beings have options--a choice. Humans beings are "instinctively" aware of Almighty God. Animals are not.
” ECCLESIASTES 3:19-20 Man's fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath, man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless. All go to the same place; all come from dust and to dust all return. (NIV)”

“GENESIS 1:30 and to every animal of the earth, and to every fowl of the heavens, and to everything that creepeth on the earth, in which is a living soul, every green herb for food. And it was so. (DBY)”

Doesn’t sound like it to me.

Do you deny that you have intrinsic value?

Do you deny that you have limited knowledge of the ancient language and what was actually meant?

Originally posted by ushomefree
Do you deny that you have intrinsic value?
😕

Everything on the planet has intrinsic value?

How about answering the question instead of answering it with another question. 😉

Answer the question.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Answer the question.
We are still waiting for yours. 🙂