Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistI wanted to be clear.
I got it after the first time... however, I forgot and you reminded me two more times. Thanks. 👆
Plus I could see someone reporting that for me admitting me to being a sock trying to get me banned when it was obviously a joke.
I gotta watch my ass ya know.
Originally posted by Merlynam may not have been in "full control" of the wave,
but he was responsible for initially releasing it.(kinda like scarlet witch and the chaos wave).
The Chaos Wave was Wanda's power, being released out of Wanda herself,
it was not a separate entity/tech/and or source of power,
she collapsed the entire Omniverse with chaos magic that originated from withIN her.
Btw. The second time around, when Wanda fixed the Omniverse,
she did it consciously with a phrase.
Again, no machines, no initiation of a separate force called the "chaos wave,"
no stipulations of any kind, period.
Wanda let power flow out of her being,
and that power warped the entirety of 616,
it then spilt out through the dimensional walls of causality across the Omniverse,
folding all the Realities (Omniverse) overseen by Roma's Citadel on top of each other.
Wanda (with a thought/phrase)
then consciously put it all back with the exception of 90% of mutants' powers.
Yo.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Okay, now it's YOUR turn to prove that... because I have shown a scan saying that without the tech he cannot use the anti-matter. Now it's your turn to prove that it only "guided" the anti-matter.
actually, all thats said there is "But what if they find a way to stop your machines?"......which doesnt say *anything* about AM releasing the antimatter; saying it does is U projecting an explanation into a comment thats vague AT BEST.
Tazer
Originally posted by Mr MasterTHE MOST am's tech MAY have done was "guide" the a-wave. but it was am HIMSELF who originally initiated/released/formed it, under his own personal power. that's what i was saying from the get go. 🙂
I have to disagree here.The Chaos Wave was Wanda's power, being released out of Wanda herself,
it was not a separate entity/tech/and or source of power,
she collapsed the entire Omniverse with chaos magic that originated from withIN her.Btw. The second time around, when Wanda fixed the Omniverse,
she did it consciously with a phrase.Again, no machines, no initiation of a separate force called the "chaos wave,"
no stipulations of any kind, period.Wanda let power flow out of her being,
and that power warped the entirety of 616,
it then spilt out through the dimensional walls of causality across the Omniverse,
folding all the Realities (Omniverse) overseen by Roma's Citadel on top of each other.Wanda (with a thought/phrase)
then consciously put it all back with the exception of 90% of mutants' powers.
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.actually, all thats said there is "But what if they find a way to stop your machines?"......which doesnt say *anything* about AM releasing the antimatter; saying it does is U projecting an explanation into a comment thats vague AT BEST.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazerexactly. 👆
Yo.Id also remind ya that he apparently didnt need tech to begin generating an a-wave here on Earth recently in GL #25 , and he/it wasnt even at full powah yet......
Tazer
Not sure how AM making the A-Wave under his own power is even in question, [even IF you take that one scan way out of context].. srsly
As already stated,
the much weaker form of AM, [as seen in GL #25], was able to create/manipulate an A-Wave, with ease, and on his own.
It's ridiculous to think AM from COIE, [who was far superior to his more recent incarnation in damn near every possible way], was incapable of doing so. 👇
Originally posted by King KandyCool. u have your opinion, and i have mine. 🙂
Well maybe you don't think so but I do. Darthgoober has used very convincing arguments in the past and he shifted me to his point of view.
but imo, the scan u provided is incredibly vague, and is anything but "clear".
why? cuz like a few peeps have said already, we know that when am came back recently, he was WAY weaker then he was in coie. but despite his being less powerful, he was still able to produce an AM-wave without any outside assistance. 🙂
Yo.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I never said that he COULDN'T collapse universes without tech (he certainly did so with Pariah's) but it seems clear to me at least that he used then in CoIE.
no, but ya did say:
Originally posted by King Kandy
It says right on the scan that he cannot release anti matter if the heroes destroy his machines.
and that is just wat has been addressed.
Tazer
Originally posted by Galan007
AM destroyed all but 5 of an infinite amount of Positive-Matter Universes... He then absorbed the entire Anti-Matter Universe, to which the energy of said Positive-Matter Universes had flown.
So AM COIE has the power of all but 5 universes???
Is it correct that Spectre at full power (merged with Source I think it means) is more ore less equal to the presence that was the impression I got from the scans posted in his respect thread.
Originally posted by UtrigitaYep. 🙂
So AM COIE has the power of all but 5 universes???
Originally posted by UtrigitaIn the instance you're talking about, Spectre momentarily became THE God.
Is it correct that Spectre at full power (merged with Source I think it means) is more ore less equal to the presence that was the impression I got from the scans posted in his respect thread.
Originally posted by Galan007
At the end, he had the power of all but 3 universes, iirc. 🙂In the instance you're talking about, Spectre momentarily became THE God.
Okay fair enough, so he basically has what the beyonder has (in some way) minus 3 universes???
Is it correct to assume that, that was his highest point shown so far???