Originally posted by ImpedimentDoes that mean you generally agree that life in prison (without parole) would be a suitable alternative to the death penalty?
Tell that to the board of the Sex Offender Treatment Program of Texas who decides that the inmate is fit to be released from rehabilitative therapy and the parole board who releases them into the world.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I can understand it. I don't blame you for it. I doubt I would do the same, but I have sympathy for people in such a situation. I just don't think that society has to give in to the blind revenge a family member, maybe justifiably, has. If you kill them saving your someone or yourself I am all for it, but we are talking about killing someone that has been rendered harmless. Not my idea of justice.
Nine. Killing the person would NOT be protecting your child. All that would be necessary would be pulling them off your child and calling the police. Based on the common psychological profile of a child molester/child rapist, you wouldn't have very much trouble at all scaring them off. Most would just run if caught by an adult.
The point of the question was to show that despite your professions of objectivity and rational thought, you are just as human as any parent is. You would be taking justice into your own hands. I should have seen that your above perspective would be held because you like anarchy and hate government. But that didn't make sense since you suggested that cascade of killing with the family administered death penalty.
Also, because you are a big person, I don't think you would have a hard time beating someone to death.
Originally posted by BackFire
I was referring only to those who are there for life.Meaning, they won't get released.
True, there are a percentage of rapists and molesters who are incarcerated for life, but the majority, shockingly, is released back into the world after only a short stint of imprisonment.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Does that mean you generally agree that life in prison (without parole) would be a suitable alternative to the death penalty?
To be fair, maybe. But my natural protective instincts as a dad tell me to kill the motherf*cker.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Nine. Killing the person would NOT be protecting your child. All that would be necessary would be pulling them off your child and calling the police. Based on the common psychological profile of a child molester/child rapist, you wouldn't have very much trouble at all scaring them off. Most would just run if caught by an adult.
See, that's why I can't respect you. That is in no way what I said.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The point of the question was to show that despite your professions of objectivity and rational thought, you are just as human as any parent is. You would be taking justice into your own hands. I should have seen that your above perspective would be held because you like anarchy and hate government. But that didn't make sense since you suggested that cascade of killing with the family administered death penalty.
Fail again. I didn't speak for a death penalty ever. I satirized the ideas of death penalty supporters. Read what I say, stop making up your own stuff. If something is unclear just ask, don't run with your idea of what I might be saying.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, because you are a big person, I don't think you would have a hard time beating someone to death.
What does it matter.
Originally posted by Robtard
Come on now, the margin for error is slim, especially when they're caught "red-handed", outright confess, or the evidence is overwhelming.
Slim isn't good enough. Until the justice system is competent enough to ensure that NO innocent person will ever get put to death, it should not exist. Killing one innocent person through error is a much greater argument against the current incarnation of capital punishment than anyone could make.
Originally posted by RobtardTrue, yet there were apparently hundreds released after a time served on death row. It happens. How to know that one day won't be killed. Really, thinking about it, it is likely it already happened.
Come on now, the margin for error is slim, especially when they're caught "red-handed", outright confess, or the evidence is overwhelming.
Originally posted by ImpedimentWell, the average time of death row is above 10 years. The price of appeals and their specific housing is larger as well. I don't know how true it is, but there are rumours that on average it is more expensive to kill someone via death penalty than to lock them away for life. And then there is te thing about killing a human.
Better to spend $5,000 on an execution than $35,000 a year to feed and house the bastard, in my opinion.
Originally posted by BackFire
It has happened, many innocent people have been executed. They were only proven innocent after they were dead once new technology was advanced.
See, you're confusing me now. You'll "LoL" at some innocent person being anallly raped, but you have the utmost compassion for rapist, murderers and now the supreme "lol" of "opps, I guess Johnson was innocent."
Originally posted by Bardock42
the average time of death row is above 10 years. The price of appeals and their specific housing is larger as well. I don't know how true it is, but there are rumours that on average it is more expensive to kill someone via death penalty than to lock them away for life.
If I remember correctly, at least here in Texas, it cost about $5,000 to administer the 3 drug cocktail for lethal injection. Why, for f*cks sake, it costs that much to administer sodium thiopental, pancuronium bromide, and potassium chloride I'll never know. It costs the state of Texas, at the very least, $35,000 per year for housing, food, clothing, and medical care.
Originally posted by Bardock42
And then there is the thing about killing a human.
I can respect you respecting the value of human life, but do you really value the life of a child molesting animal that much to deny execution?
Originally posted by Bardock42
See, that's why I can't respect you. That is in no way what I said.
You posted:
If you kill them saving your someone or yourself I am all for it,
My bad for misinterpreting what you meant. Considering you were responding to a post that was a response to my question to you, I assumed that you illogically thought that it would be necessary to save your child by killing the rapist which was illogical. I had no idea that you were taking it off topic and talking about defending yourself or your child in general.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Fail again. I didn't speak for a death penalty ever. I satirized the ideas of death penalty supporters. Read what I say, stop making up your own stuff. If something is unclear just ask, don't run with your idea of what I might be saying.
Sorry, that doesn't apply in this scenario. I was referring to this post:
Originally posted by Bardock42
All for that system. If the executeds' family and friends then get to decide whether they want the family of the first victim dead. If so they're the ones that have to pull the trigger, inject the needle, flip the switch, etc.
You WERE speaking of the death penalty. I didn't make anything up. I was referencing this post. It was obvious that you were satirizing death penalty supporters. You can't pretend that you didn't make a post so that you can claim I make points up that you posted.
Originally posted by Bardock42
What does it matter.
Because it is fully within an angry Bardock's power to kill someone in a rage...furthering my point of the question.
Originally posted by Impediment
If I remember correctly, at least here in Texas, it cost about $5,000 to administer the 3 drug cocktail for lethal injection. Why, for f*cks sake, it costs that much to administer sodium thiopental, pancuronium bromide, and potassium chloride I'll never know. It costs the state of Texas, at the very least, $35,000 per year for housing, food, clothing, and medical care.
Yes, but that leaves out their housing for 10+ years. The appeals they get. The amount of extra guarding and care they get, etc. If everyone that was sentenced to death was going to be taken to the gas chamber the next day the economic argument would make sense. I am sure Iran saves a shitload on money on it, but in the US there are "luckily" more issues to consider.
Originally posted by Impediment
I can respect you respecting the value of human life, but do you really value the life of a child molesting animal that much to deny execution?
Yes. To me that's not a question.