Originally posted by zeelNo duh. Of course I dont know exactly what would happen but I have an opinion based on what Thanos has done prior. I saw his fight with Odin who is superior to Shazam so I say Thanos wins.
your guessing yet again, until thanos fights shazam you have no clue. or till shazam gets more seat time and we get to see what he can do.till then thanos has a better track record.
but the potential of shazam beating thanos is very much there.
just no proof yet.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you dont take into account what the comics say. Perfect I get what you are saying now. You take the characters out of this and try to argue powerset vs powerset. This explains why why you ignore what happens in the comics.
I respect you a lot now Quanchi. You're very smart. You are probably the first to figure this out.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No duh. Of course I dont know exactly what would happen but I have an opinion based on what Thanos has done prior. I saw his fight with Odin who is superior to Shazam so I say Thanos wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Tell me about a Thanos defeat that had to do with a spell being cast or something of that nature to prove your point.
Thanos was curse by death. But that don't quite prove my point.
I just feel that Odin can enchant Captain America's shield not to be lifted (like Thor's hammer) and it is the most durable thing in the Marvel Universe. No amount of strength Hulk can reach would be able to lift it.
Note: The lifting curse/enchantment probably uses force mirrors (mirroring your own lifting force in the opposite direction in order to make it impossible for anyone of any strength not to lift. Meaning, someone would be trying to lift against their own strength and fail everytime).
So Thanos being less durable than CA's shield and less strong than what Hulk can potentially reach and not having any magical power to resist curses should make Odin easily be able to curse his arms not to be lifted (like Mjlonir). Or simply just apply a force mirror to Thanos arms (and probably his head too . 😂 )
Originally posted by h1a8Uhm this isnt how you should argue character vs character though. This is how you should argue powerset vs powerset. We have to take into account what these characters do in the comics.
I respect you a lot now Quanchi. You're very smart. You are probably the first to figure this out.
Originally posted by fangirl101You remind me of someone. What feats does he have that put him as a peer of Odin.
THIS MAKES NO SENSE. JUST BECAUSE THANOS GOT BEAT UP BY ODIN MEANS HE CAN BEAT SHAZAM? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. SHAZAM SEEMS TO BE AS POWERFUL AS ODIN. HE STOOD UP TO THE SPECTRE. NAME ONE MULTIVERSAL BEING THAT ODIN HAS FOUGHT?
Shazam prepped and was at the rock of eternity and used his artifacts to battle him.
Originally posted by h1a8The Spectre couldnt defeat Captain Marvel who was amped. The Spectre also couldnt destroy the Am. These are two instances where the Spectre failed. Granted one of these instances he had no host. The Spectre was also taken care of and put in a cage. If he left the cage all of reality would perish. The Spectre isnt the Presence. There are ways to stop him.
So celestials>>>God?Implying Spectre empowered by the Presense (God).
Originally posted by quanchi112
The Spectre couldnt defeat Captain Marvel who was amped. The Spectre also couldnt destroy the Am. These are two instances where the Spectre failed. Granted one of these instances he had no host. The Spectre was also taken care of and put in a cage. If he left the cage all of reality would perish. The Spectre isnt the Presence. There are ways to stop him.
a celestial is weaker than galactus. how in the heck are they supposed to beat up on the spectre? captain marvel wasn't just amped, he had all the remaining magic in the universe pumping thru him. oh and the spectre wasn't in his full ability. so i don't see how you are coming up with your judgement. it's your right to think that way, but it doesn't really line up. in the new dc universe 0, it is even alluded that the spectre's outlook actually changes with each new host, and thus changes how and why he uses his power. as for the cage thing, well, i rather think that shows how much power the spectre has. if he even moved he would destroy all of creation. kinda let's you know that he's nothing to be mucked with.
Originally posted by fangirl101That is highly debatable. I was talking about the Celestials anyways. Remember when the fourth host came to Asgard and they amped themselves up in defense. They couldnt beat one...not one. I think they could definitely do more harm to Galactus for sure. Didnt the godblast drive him off before.
a celestial is weaker than galactus. how in the heck are they supposed to beat up on the spectre? captain marvel wasn't just amped, he had all the remaining magic in the universe pumping thru him. oh and the spectre wasn't in his full ability. so i don't see how you are coming up with your judgement. it's your right to think that way, but it doesn't really line up. in the new dc universe 0, it is even alluded that the spectre's outlook actually changes with each new host, and thus changes how and why he uses his power. as for the cage thing, well, i rather think that shows how much power the spectre has. if he even moved he would destroy all of creation. kinda let's you know that he's nothing to be mucked with.
Oh I clarified the differences. But please feel free to point out where he was weaker. Id like for you to prove the Spectre wasnt at full power in dov. Your new right so please prove this.
The Spectre wasnt the one about to destroy creation it was the trap that was set if he tried to escape. He didnt want that outcome.
Captain Marvel was indeed very powerful. But he had a finite source of magic amping him. Nabu had already been dealt with as well so he wasnt getting anything from him correct? He was being amped by a finite source of magic that made him a badass but thats not the kicker. To me its that he was easily rocking the Spectre. The Spectre was getting destroyed and if the power source had not been cut off he would have lost. Thank the enchantress for that one.