Black Panther vs. Batman: H2H Only

Originally posted by thadarknite84
If you are trying to use ABC logic, it won't work here. Cap has never beaten Batman in h2h and when Batman said that Cap can conceivably beat him (in JLA/Avengers crossover), he mean it's possible not definite. Hell, it possible that Nightwing, Shiva, and Batgirl (Casandra Cain) could beat Batman too. Black Panther beating Cap, doesn't mean he will out right beat Batman.

I think you should quit while you still have a chance. You don't want to start comparing feats.

I think that comparing feats is the only way this debate will get settled............

Arm bar on Silver Sufer>Batkick on Captian Marvel

BPs Wallet > BM Wallet

Boning Storm > Boning men

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah when was this? Im pretty sure hes been upgraded.

It been part of BP sinces like the beggining of his character.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
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edit my bad he dindt beat Cap I think his father did.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Batman said that Cap can conceivably beat him (in JLA/Avengers crossover), he mean it's possible not definite.

Actually, he was admitting that Cap was more skilled, at least according to Kurt; IOW, the writer.

Chuckg
Don't you think Batman should be able to defeat Captain America by using his leopard blow?

kurtbusiek
No, not particularly.

Chuckg
That really should be interpreted that Batman thinks he'd beat Cap, doesn't it, since Batman is the far more skilled fighter?

kurtbusiek
You can interpret it how you like, but my intent was that Batman was noting that Cap is the more skilled.

kdb

http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/...=0&tstart=0

It's from page 45

Thanks to Batdude putting these scans together, here are some Batman feats

Takes down Solomon Grundy with pressure point strikes:

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Again, beats Solomon Grundy into unconsciousness:

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Knocks Gorilla Grodd the f*ck out with a kick:

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Gains the upper hand on Wonder Woman in a sparring session:

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Stuns Wonder Woman with a pressure point strike:

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He was beating a demon-possessed Wonder Woman until she toppled debris on him:

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Gains the upper hand in a h2h fight against Lobo until some chick breaks it up:

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Fends off an attack by Lobo with a back hand of his own:

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Beats down Aquaman in a fight:

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Punks the Ray pretty easily:

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Defeats numerous cybernetically enhanced Gorillas with heavy armor and telekinetic abilities using pressure points:

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Bloodies up Darkseid:

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Makes Hawkgirl look like a CHILD here:

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Reverts Captain Marvel to Billy Batson here with a kick:

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Now for some impressive showings of strength…

Splits a tree in half like nothing:

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Rips out a metal duct easily and demonstrates great agility in the process:

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Another instance of him batkicking down trees:

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Here, he hurls Dr. Death through a reinforced door designed to withstand the impact of f*ckin’ MISSLES (beats the shit out of anything Elektra has done when it comes to strength):

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Kicks down a steel door:

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Bends the barrel of a gun with his hands:

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Knocks out Deathstroke with one kick:

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Here he is benching roughly over a ton (considering we see a 500 lb. plate in there):

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Now for some agility/speed feats…

Mr. Freeze can’t do shit to Batman at point blank range with his freeze gun:

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Dodges gunfire at close range and then takes down the gunmen:

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Moving in-between machine gunfire with ease and then kicks the Reaper (who is an expert marksman):

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Ducks under a bullet fired at point blank range from Deadshot then takes him down with 1 punch:

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Blitzing various gunmen straight up while evading/withstanding gunfire from other thugs:

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Surrounded by armed guards, he's able to blitz and disarm them before they can react:

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Easily blocking Ivy and Black Spider's rapidly shot poisonous tranqs at the same time with a single batarang and taking them out quickly afterwards:

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Grabs Impulse while he’s speeding around Batman:

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Here he’s able to dodge Superman’s flying punch:

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Here he dodges a sneak heat vision attack before being taken out:

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This is awesome… he steals GL Kyle’s ring away from him, and Kyle had no idea what the f*ck just happened (and jinzin thought Elektra stealing Punisher’s gun was impressive):

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Disappears out of sight from everyone in front of him despite Deadshot shooting rapidly at him within close range… almost super speedster-like:

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Detects a bullet fired by a sniper after its shot at him and quickly dodges it:

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Showing off impressive speed as he eludes bullets at close range, disarms a man with a shotgun before he can react, and purposely falls out the way of bullets only inches away from his body:

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Evades and disappears out of sight of bullets shot at him at 5,000 rounds per minute within close range to the surprise of his evil counterpart The Wrath.

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Catches an arrow shot by Green Arrow behind his back without looking:

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Here, Bruce is hiding in a tree, and an arrow is shot at him without him being aware of it. Then, before the arrow can reach him, he tosses a batarang at it casually, splits it in half, and splits the bow in half as well. This just goes to show how awesome Batman's reflexes/reaction speeds and accuracy are:

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His suit allows him almost superhuman durability…

Takes a punch from The General and is shortly right back up afterwards on the attack

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Armor withstands attacks from an OMAC drone with no damage done to it even with the drone using advanced protocols/weaponry:

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Smashed in the back with a wooden chair… nothing:

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Again, gets smashed in the back of the head with a wooden board to no effect:

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To re-establish his urban myth within Gotham, he willingly makes himself a target for snipers and gets shot multiple times but is unfazed:

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Batman doesn’t even need to dodge gunfire:

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Now for some skill feats…

Battles Eddie Hurst who's been driven insane due to a magical stone granting him super strength, speed, and invulnerability. While Bruce proves unable to stop or hurt him physically, he does impressively manage to hold his own against him the entire time with skill and weaponry without being beaten… he even uses the two deadliest strikes in ALL the fighting arts:

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Demonstrates spiritual healing, as he didn’t even feel getting shot in the leg:

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Defeats Cassandra Cain (who most people think is better than Batman… HA!) in h2h and ends the fight with a deadly nerve strike.

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He is able to disrupt Lois Lane's short term memory's transfer with a nerve pinch:

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Easily defeats Green Arrow with a nerve pinch disabling his arm then re-enabling it to move again with a touch:

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Knocks out a thug with mere touches of his finger:

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Takes down a bouncer with a 2 finger touch:

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Despite being ambushed, he battles Karate Kid (Post-Crisis) to an inconclusive stalemate while dishing out combat tips in the middle of battle, showing he is the more experienced fighter of the two:

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So, they get to keep their suits for this fight?

Batman is more skilled and he wins here. With EQ then BP wins.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, they get to keep their suits for this fight?

Yeah 😖hifty:

Doesn't BP wear a vibranium suit, how is Batman supposed to be able to hurt him?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Doesn't BP wear a vibranium suit, how is Batman supposed to be able to hurt him?

Originally posted by ÇãPž™
The post says, "strictly skill." I guess they fight bare assed.

Except the thread starter just said they get their suits

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Thanks to Batdude putting these scans together, here are some Batman feats

Reverts Captain Marvel to Billy Batson here with a kick:

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I have this comic, unfortunately, Batman did not revert Captain Marvel into Billy Batson here--Captain Marvel did it to himself. Batman was even confused as to why Capt. Marvel did it, it was a ploy by Capt. Marvel to lure Batman in.

This is a good thread, I personally think that Black Panther will win based on his speed and vibranium suit matched with his skills.

Ditto & I hope that scan doesn't make anyone think Bats can hang w/WW unless she lets him. When she doesn't, Bats ends up w/high heels in his face. I hate WW, but she'd kill BP & Bats at the same time

Yeah, BP is a MARVEL "peak human"

Cap is a "peak human" who can run 60 mph

BP might MIGHT be inferior in skill but he's superior in physicality, plus if they get their suits Vibranium is badass

That being said, from someone who actually spars h2h, I'd say BP advantages are not completely insurmountable. This would still go 55/100 his way.

BP puts Batman in an unbreakable armlock

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
BP is superhuman

BP beat and enhanced Red Skull that beat Cap (I think). BP wins.

Other way around as Red Skull had the edge on BP. But anyhow BP isn't true superhuman but almost superhuman which is still a bit better then Batman. Batman is more skilled though.