Originally posted by Soljer
Normally he does, yes, but I believe Hudlin has ignored this fact. If I recall correctly, he mentioned over at the HudlinEntertainment forums that he didn't consider the anti-metal claws 'standard.'
Hmm, I don't remember reading that, if you could post a link to the thread I will check it out.
What I do know for a fact is various people (including myself) have asked hudlin what his standard equip, powers, intelligence, etc was. And all he pretty much gives us is that he was simply "building" upon what was already there.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Hmm, I don't remember reading that, if you could post a link to the thread I will check it out.What I do know for a fact is various people (including myself) have asked hudlin what his standard equip, powers, intelligence, etc was. And all he pretty much gives us is that he was simply "building" upon what was already there.
I'll look for it. It was a really long time ago, though. Back when the storm-fans first started acting like morons en masse.
Batman is just as strong as BP. Here is Batman supporting the weight of rubble from a collapsed building.
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img114&image=baton14lm.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img114&image=baton25yx.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img114&image=baton32ll.jpg
And Batman's agility is also on par with BP.
http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img9&image=batagile90uw.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img9&image=batagile63lb.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detectivecomics577199ik.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfon3.jpg
Here Batman is surrounded by armed guards, he's able to blitz and disarm them before they can react:
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfmb0.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfhl8.jpg
And I don't think BP is faster than Superman......
http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdffl2.jpg
Batman also dodges a sneak heat vision attack before being taken out by Superman and survived. So it is logical that Batman can take anything that BP can offer.
http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23ph0.jpg
He can also takes a punch from The General and is shortly right back up afterwards on the attack. The General>>>>>>>>>BP in strength.
http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfaa3.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfmt4.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfte3.jpg
Batman bends the barrel of a gun with his hands
http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdftx3.jpg
Here, he hurls Dr. Death through a reinforced door designed to withstand the impact of missiles
http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfzp4.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfde3.jpg
Rips out a metal duct easily and demonstrates great agility in the process:
http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfvb9.jpg
And as for fighting technique.......
Batman beats Solomon Grundy into unconsciousness
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmandarkvictory01page394yl.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmandarkvictory01page409be.jpg
Batman defeats Cassandra Cain with a deadly nerve strike.
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfjv7.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfyq0.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfcb2.jpg
Easily defeats Green Arrow with a nerve pinch disabling his arm then re-enabling it to move again with a touch:
http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfiv2.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfcv2.jpg
Batman defeating Cain, his former martial arts mentor and one of the best assassins in the world
http://img65.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img65&image=mar1.jpg
http://img52.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img52&image=mar2.jpg
Batman defeats Wildcat with masks on to blind their sight.
http://img89.exs.cx/img89/2474/batgrant3.jpg
http://img89.exs.cx/img89/9785/batgrant4.jpg
http://img89.exs.cx/img89/6407/batgrant5.jpg
Batman stalemates Richard Dragon
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=bravebold132-05.jpg
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=bravebold132-06.jpg
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=bravebold132-07.jpg
Uses Dim Mak techniques to get a psycho to talk
http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc288&image=67204_batdimak.jpg
Batman easily humiliates King Snake a blind martial artist known as being one of the best in the world
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc220&image=e85_batsnake1.jpg
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc27&image=d8d_batsnake3.jpg
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc156&image=046_batsnake4.jpg
http://img120.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc232&image=e6d_batsnake5.jpg
Here we see a young Batman defeat Haim in a hand to hand contest by blocking the hungry cobra death strike a move that only 7 people in the world know how defend against
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc268&image=216_bathaim6.jpg
http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc44&image=795_bathaim7.jpg
http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc11&image=31c_bathaim8.jpg
http://img16.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc276&image=115_bathaim9.jpg
Knocks out a thug with mere touches of his finger:
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfea0.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfug1.jpg
Takes down a bouncer with a 2 finger touch:
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfdv5.jpg
Despite being ambushed, he battles Karate Kid (Post-Crisis) to an inconclusive stalemate while dishing out combat tips in the middle of battle, showing he is the more experienced fighter of the two
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfjk7.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfxf8.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfom5.jpg
Karate Kid is a far better MA than BP and Batman has proved that he can go toe 2 toe with him. And all of the physical advantages everybody think BP has over Batman, is really not a factor. Batman is more than capable of defeating BP in h2h. If anyone feels different, please post scan showing why you feel that BP would take the majority. And if not, Batman wins.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
Batman is just as strong as BP. Here is Batman supporting the weight of rubble from a collapsed building.http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img114&image=baton14lm.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img114&image=baton25yx.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img114&image=baton32ll.jpgAnd Batman's agility is also on par with BP.
http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img9&image=batagile90uw.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img9&image=batagile63lb.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detectivecomics577199ik.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfon3.jpg
Here Batman is surrounded by armed guards, he's able to blitz and disarm them before they can react:
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfmb0.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfhl8.jpgAnd I don't think BP is faster than Superman......
http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdffl2.jpg
Batman also dodges a sneak heat vision attack before being taken out by Superman and survived. So it is logical that Batman can take anything that BP can offer.
http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23ph0.jpg
He can also takes a punch from The General and is shortly right back up afterwards on the attack. The General>>>>>>>>>BP in strength.
http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfaa3.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfmt4.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfte3.jpgBatman bends the barrel of a gun with his hands
http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdftx3.jpg
Here, he hurls Dr. Death through a reinforced door designed to withstand the impact of missiles
http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfzp4.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfde3.jpgRips out a metal duct easily and demonstrates great agility in the process:
http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfvb9.jpg
And as for fighting technique.......
Batman beats Solomon Grundy into unconsciousness
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmandarkvictory01page394yl.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmandarkvictory01page409be.jpgBatman defeats Cassandra Cain with a deadly nerve strike.
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfjv7.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfyq0.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfcb2.jpgEasily defeats Green Arrow with a nerve pinch disabling his arm then re-enabling it to move again with a touch:
http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfiv2.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfcv2.jpgBatman defeating Cain, his former martial arts mentor and one of the best assassins in the world
http://img65.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img65&image=mar1.jpg
http://img52.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img52&image=mar2.jpgBatman defeats Wildcat with masks on to blind their sight.
http://img89.exs.cx/img89/2474/batgrant3.jpg
http://img89.exs.cx/img89/9785/batgrant4.jpg
http://img89.exs.cx/img89/6407/batgrant5.jpgBatman stalemates Richard Dragon
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=bravebold132-05.jpg
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=bravebold132-06.jpg
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=bravebold132-07.jpgUses Dim Mak techniques to get a psycho to talk
http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc288&image=67204_batdimak.jpg
Batman easily humiliates King Snake a blind martial artist known as being one of the best in the world
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc220&image=e85_batsnake1.jpg
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc27&image=d8d_batsnake3.jpg
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc156&image=046_batsnake4.jpg
http://img120.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc232&image=e6d_batsnake5.jpgHere we see a young Batman defeat Haim in a hand to hand contest by blocking the hungry cobra death strike a move that only 7 people in the world know how defend against
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc268&image=216_bathaim6.jpg
http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc44&image=795_bathaim7.jpg
http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc11&image=31c_bathaim8.jpg
http://img16.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc276&image=115_bathaim9.jpgKnocks out a thug with mere touches of his finger:
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfea0.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfug1.jpgTakes down a bouncer with a 2 finger touch:
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfdv5.jpg
Despite being ambushed, he battles Karate Kid (Post-Crisis) to an inconclusive stalemate while dishing out combat tips in the middle of battle, showing he is the more experienced fighter of the two
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfjk7.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfxf8.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfom5.jpgKarate Kid is a far better MA than BP and Batman has proved that he can go toe 2 toe with him. And all of the physical advantages everybody think BP has over Batman, is really not a factor. Batman is more than capable of defeating BP in h2h. If anyone feels different, please post scan showing why you feel that BP would take the majority. And if not, Batman wins.
In general Batman feats are mediocre in comparison with Marvel street levelers. Yeah those feats are good but I got loads of Batman comics, hell in one of them he has to wear an armoured cowl to take a huge number of Chinese gangsters and needed help from another street leveler. The issue is Shadow of the Bat issue 90.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
In general Batman feats are mediocre in comparison with Marvel street levelers. Yeah those feats are good but I got loads of Batman comics, hell in one of them he has to wear an armoured cowl to take a huge number of Chinese gangsters and needed help from another street leveler. The issue is Shadow of the Bat issue 90.
I'd bet those Chinese gangsters are nowhere near Karate Kid, Richard Dragon, Cain, or even King Snake in terms of MA skills. And taking a punch from The General, holding the weight of rubble from a collapsed building, and surviving an physical attack from Superman is far from mediocre. There are factors that you are clearly overlooking in these scans. That would play a big role in this fight.
this is levell 1 Right?
http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc288&image=67204_batdimak.jpg
s0 uhm lets say Batman touches, sorry Batkicks BP just once with levell 100 Dim Mak
Originally posted by thadarknite84
I'd bet those Chinese gangsters are nowhere near Karate Kid, Richard Dragon, Cain, or even King Snake in terms of MA skills. And taking a punch from The General, holding the weight of rubble from a collapsed building, and surviving an physical attack from Superman is far from mediocre. There are factors that you are clearly overlooking in these scans. That would play a big role in this fight.
No you are missing the point. What are you trying to tell me that Batmans suit or his durability is so high he can withstand class 100 shots? Obvoulsy not because he was probably wearing an upgraded suit.
Its not just Shadow of Bat issue 90 in another issue he is getting hurt by punches from Killer Croc. Hell in another issue of Batman, Batman almost cripples himself attempting to punch Superman, if Superman had not moved his head slightly Batman would have become crippled and even then Batman injured his hand punching Superman in the face.
So when we see Batman taking blows from people who are class 100 why the hell are we assuming that its his standard suit? Common sense dictates that its not.
Furthermore im not saying the feats are not impressive but he does not do it consistently enough to give him the majority. Maybe in JLA but certainly not in Batman comics so I could be wrong.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No you are missing the point. What are you trying to tell me that Batmans suit or his durability is so high he can withstand class 100 shots? Obvoulsy not because he was probably wearing an upgraded suit.Its not just Shadow of Bat issue 90 in another issue he is getting hurt by punches from Killer Croc. Hell in another issue of Batman, Batman almost cripples himself attempting to punch Superman, if Superman had not moved his head slightly Batman would have become crippled and even then Batman injured his hand punching Superman in the face.
So when we see Batman taking blows from people who are class 100 why the hell are we assuming that its his standard suit? Common sense dictates that its not.
Furthermore im not saying the feats are not impressive [B]but he does not do it consistently enough to give him the majority
. Maybe in JLA but certainly not in Batman comics so I could be wrong. [/B]
Do you have proof that it's a upgraded suit? And The General punched Batman in the face, not the body. It doesn't matter if it's JLA or the Batman series, there is only one Batman. And you are missing the point, BP is no even a better fighter than KK and Batman can take anything BP can dish-out. Plus Batman has been shown to use more deadly fighting techniques, than BP. Batman is clearly more skilled. Batman 6/10
Originally posted by thadarknite84
Do you have proof that it's a upgraded suit? And The General punched Batman in the face, not the body. It doesn't matter if it's JLA or the Batman series, there is only one Batman. And you are missing the point, BP is no even a better fighter than KK and Batman can take anything BP can dish-out. Plus Batman has been shown to use more deadly fighting techniques, than BP. Batman clearly more skilled. Batman 6/10
Well even if there no proof its common bloody sense. Batman durability and suits are normally not class 100 so for him to take a shot from a class 100 is PIS.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well even if there no proof its common bloody sense. Batman durability and suits are normally not class 100 so for him to take a shot from a class 100 is PIS.
You're making excuses, every character has PIS. That doesn't change what happed. Batman is more than capable of handling and defeating BP in h2h combat. As I said before, BP is not even on KK level of fighting skills and The General>>>>>>BP in strength. Superman>>>>>BP in speed, and Batman dodged a flying punch from Superman......
http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdffl2.jpg
Batman is just as strong and as fast. But most importantly, he is a more skilled fighter. Batman wins this Battle, hands down.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
You're making excuses, every character has PIS. That doesn't change what happed. Batman i more than capable of handling and defeating BP in h2h combat. As I said before, BP is not even on KK level of fighting skills and The General>>>>>>BP in strength. Superman>>>>>BP in speed, and Batman dodged a flying punch from Superman......http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdffl2.jpg
Batman is just as strong and as fast. But most importantly, he is a more skilled fighters. Batman wins this Battle, hands down.
Yes but you are using PIS as reasons as to why Batman can win. So Batman can dodge Superman and take punches from Superman when there are lots of examples to porve otherwise. 🤨
What you trying to say Batman is going to speedblitz BP or hes so invulnerable that he cant be hurt?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yes but you are using PIS as reasons as to why Batman can win. So Batman can dodge Superman and take punches from Superman when there are lots of examples to porve otherwise. 🤨What you trying to say Batman is going to speedblitz BP or hes so invulnerable that he cant be hurt?
My point is that BP has no physical advantages that would be a factor in this fight. Batman is on par with him physically and he is able to hurt BP regardless of his suit......
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmandarkvictory01page394yl.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmandarkvictory01page409be.jpg
Batman is the better skilled MA in this contest and he uses more deadly techniques than BP......
http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc288&image=67204_batdimak.jpg
And Batman is not as fast as Superman, but he's fast enough.....
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfon3.jpg
And once again, KK>BP and Batman can hold his own against KK....
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfjk7.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfxf8.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfom5.jpg
Batman is very capable of defeating BP.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
My point is that BP has no physical advantages that would be a factor in this fight. Batman is on par with him physically and he is able to hurt BP regardless of his suit......http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmandarkvictory01page394yl.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmandarkvictory01page409be.jpgBatman is the better skilled MA in this contest and he uses more deadly techniques than BP......
http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc288&image=67204_batdimak.jpg
And Batman is not as fast as Superman, but he's fast enough.....
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfon3.jpg
And once again, KK>BP and Batman can hold his own against KK....
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfjk7.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfxf8.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfom5.jpgBatman is very capable of defeating BP.
I dont think hes on par with BP physically because he doesnt do those feats enough.
Yes Batman is more skillful though but IMO hes not as fast, strong or as tough as BP because there are lots of feats that indicate otherwise.
I haven't had the chance to look through it yet, but thought that this might help.
Originally posted by jinzin
lol, first started?.. I don't think I've run accross an intelligent storm fan to date since being here.
Consider yourself blessed.
For I am an intelligent Storm fan ✅
Karnak's "conscious" bill was overdue
Lights out
Panther had to choke a *****
Speed: Hoping on the Surfer's board
H2h: Able to slap a submision hold on the Surfer (The Cosmic Lock).
While upside down, and moving on a board that should be impossible for him to ride on.
