Ultron vs Black adam

Sentry vs black adam, even though I love adam, I would give that fight to sentry.

Ultron vs black adam, I would say that ultron basically appeared to be unbeatable. I give the edge to ultron.

To me sentry have proven to be above top tier just like wwh did. WWh basically held a planet together with nothing but strength alone. WWh could have stepped on the surface of planet earth and destroyed the planet. Wwh lifted up a ship one handed that weighed millions of tons. Wwh was stated as having the same strength as a celestial and that is infinite. He was basically established as having enough strength to rival a celestial. Wwh strength, speed, and durability was increased dramitacally. Wwh has been displayed as having the ability to one shot a lot of top tiers in this forum. Even though I hate the hulk and he is a boring character, I would put him on top of the chain against almost a lot of top tiers in any battle. You might have to be a matter manipulator to beat him and he might be able to overcome that.

Back on topic, good fight but I give the edge to ultron.

Wow, I cant wait to see the response to my post.

I respectfully disagree with some of what you said.

Originally posted by carver9
Sentry vs black adam, even though I love adam, I would give that fight to sentry.

Ultron vs black adam, I would say that ultron basically appeared to be unbeatable. I give the edge to ultron.

To me sentry have proven to be above top tier just like wwh did. WWh basically held a planet together with nothing but strength alone. WWh could have stepped on the surface of planet earth and destroyed the planet. Wwh lifted up a ship one handed that weighed millions of tons. Wwh was stated as having the same strength as a celestial and that is infinite. He was basically established as having enough strength to rival a celestial. Wwh strength, speed, and durability was increased dramitacally. Wwh has been displayed as having the ability to one shot a lot of top tiers in this forum. Even though I hate the hulk and he is a boring character, I would put him on top of the chain against almost a lot of top tiers in any battle. You might have to be a matter manipulator to beat him and he might be able to overcome that.

Back on topic, good fight but I give the edge to ultron.

Sentry is not above top tier. He's too inconsistent. And WWH didn't one shot a single top tier during his entire arc.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Sentry is not above top tier. He's too inconsistent. And WWH didn't one shot a single top tier during his entire arc.

Originally posted by zeel
sentry no match for black adam not even close.

think martian manhunter vs sentry is more a even match

and martian manhunter gets literaly torn apart by black adam everytime they meet.

And by Superman's own admission, J'onn is stronger than him.

Sentry vs MM is a stomp for MM because of Sentry's pathetic mental state. Exploit that for an easy win.

To me sentry have proven to be above top tier just like wwh did. WWh basically held a planet together with nothing but strength alone. WWh could have stepped on the surface of planet earth and destroyed the planet.

Planetary level strength has been displayed by numerous level top tiers. Superman, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill etc.

Wwh lifted up a ship one handed that weighed millions of tons.

You can't mean that's an impressive feat for a top tier.

He was basically established as having enough strength to rival a celestial.

I'd like a source on this. Superman has been said to be able to one shot planets with a punch, but I doubt you'd except that in a debate without the feats.

Wwh has been displayed as having the ability to one shot a lot of top tiers in this forum. Even though I hate the hulk and he is a boring character,

Lets look at the top tiers he fought:

Strange: Hasn't been a top tier in years. Angel was powerful enough to overcome Zom

Blackbolt: Skrull

Hercules: Had no intention of fighting Hulk

Juggernaut: Stalemate followed by BFR so Hulk could escape

Sentry: Draw.

Not exactly Thanos level is he?

I wouldn't call someone who had a drawn out fist fight with the thing above top tier.

Black Adam wins, the last two Ultrons haven't been Adamantium.

Originally posted by carver9
Wwh was stated as having the same strength as a celestial and that is infinite.

Even though I hate the hulk and he is a boring character

Even more BS, how in the hell do you expect anyone to buy this?

Originally posted by carver9
WWh could have stepped on the surface of planet earth and destroyed the planet. Wwh lifted up a ship one handed that weighed millions of tons. Wwh was stated as having the same strength as a celestial and that is infinite. He was basically established as having enough strength to rival a celestial.

WWH had Celestial tech (explaining how he managed to push Juggs back and negate his forcefield), not the power of even ONE Celestial.

WWH had teh angre!!!!1

Originally posted by Jugglenaut
WWH had Celestial tech (explaining how he managed to push Juggs back and negate his forcefield), not the power of even ONE Celestial.

😖mart:.

Originally posted by Galan007
That was War Huc. War Huc is not the same as World War Huc.

😖mart:.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Proof... for any of these statements?

I don't need proof, just read the story. He held a planet together, something that superman or almost anyone in dc could not do. The said thing was that he did it effortlessly. When he landed on the planet earth to get revenge upon the marvel universe, it was stated by him and the narrator that a step from him could destroy the entire planet. Hell, he had parasites eating flesh from him for some months and didn't die. Hulk is above top tier, he could be far above top tier. He has proven to have the ability to one shot a lot of characters. Hell, despero didn't show anything close to hulks strength but he one shotted almost the entire jla/jsa with nothing but physical might. Titus had problems breaking out of a cube that was enforced around his body by a green lantern that had the weight of 100 tons but he one shotted superman, wonder woman, along with some of the rest of the jla.

Hulk has the ability to one shot a lot of characters and Im referring to top tier characters. I love gladiator and I think that he is almost one of the most unbeatable characters in comics due to his confidence giving him immeasurable strength along with boosting his other attributes but I also know for a fact that war hulk would one shot the hell out of him.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Planetary level strength has been displayed by numerous level top tiers. Superman, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill etc.

You can't mean that's an impressive feat for a top tier.

I'd like a source on this. Superman has been said to be able to one shot planets with a punch, but I doubt you'd except that in a debate without the feats.

Lets look at the top tiers he fought:

Strange: Hasn't been a top tier in years. Angel was powerful enough to overcome Zom

Blackbolt: Skrull

Hercules: Had no intention of fighting Hulk

Juggernaut: Stalemate followed by BFR so Hulk could escape

Sentry: Draw.

Not exactly Thanos level is he?

I wouldn't call someone who had a drawn out fist fight with the thing above top tier.

Black Adam wins, the last two Ultrons haven't been Adamantium.

You just dont think do you.

Strange will always be a top tier, it just depends on who you are measuring him up against.

Blackbolt: skrull, it doesnt matter, he lost, just deal with it.

Hercules: No matter if he had any attention or not, he got knocked the hell out. During the entire war hulk sigma hulk didnt have any attention of fighting anyone but he still didnt get knocked the hell out by attacks.

Juggernaut: a totally different story. I cant see a lot of beings doing anything to this character. It has been established that juggernaut has unlimited strength and he IS completely indestructible. If there is anyone out there that could give any version of the hulk a fight I would choose juggernaut.

Sentry: Sentry to me again is above top tier. He fought against and stalemated beings that are above top tier (not referring to galactus). Sentry has been established by marvel to be a being of outstanding power, that is just something that a lot of you all fail to accept.

Who havent thing gave a good fight to, its the thing, even though I think that war hulk would crush thing with just one punch.

You fail to realize that in comics things happen for a reason. The reason why hulk didnt one shot anyone of the people that he fought is due to making the story more interesting. Unless your saying that all of the people that he fought can take punches from a being that held a planet together and a being that can step on a planet and destroy it.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Planetary level strength has been displayed by numerous level top tiers. Superman, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill etc.

You can't mean that's an impressive feat for a top tier.

I'd like a source on this. Superman has been said to be able to one shot planets with a punch, but I doubt you'd except that in a debate without the feats.

Lets look at the top tiers he fought:

Strange: Hasn't been a top tier in years. Angel was powerful enough to overcome Zom

Blackbolt: Skrull

Hercules: Had no intention of fighting Hulk

Juggernaut: Stalemate followed by BFR so Hulk could escape

Sentry: Draw.

Not exactly Thanos level is he?

I wouldn't call someone who had a drawn out fist fight with the thing above top tier.

Black Adam wins, the last two Ultrons haven't been Adamantium.

By the way can you show me some proof of Superman, displaying planetary strength. I know that beta ray bill and gladiator have on panel planetary strength but are you second guessing supermans strength.

I think that you are. You might as well say martian manhunter, wonderwoman, along with a lot of other characters have planetary destroying strength.

How in the hell can you destroy a planet but you have problems moving a moon. Just dont make sense to me.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't need proof

And the only thing worth responding to (as I addressed it, but you failed to prove anything else), is that Hulk could destroy the world in a step.

And he didn't, even in his most powerful form... so... I'd have to say that this narrator you speak of is wrong.

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I also read the story and don't remember when his ship was said to be about one million tons, and I don't ever remember a Celestial being brought up anywhere in the WWH story. Nor do I remember him doing anything close to Celestial level.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
OK.

And the only thing worth responding to (as I addressed it, but you failed to prove anything else), is that Hulk could destroy the world in a step.

And he didn't, even in his most powerful form... so... I'd have to say that this narrator you speak of is wrong.

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I also read the story and don't remember when his ship was said to be about one million tons, and I don't ever remember a Celestial being brought up anywhere in the WWH story. Nor do I remember him doing anything close to Celestial level.

Well maybe you need to reread again and maybe you'll learn a little more. I hate the character but Im not as biased as you are. I dont have a scanner but I have a quote directly from a bio that would help you.

Read and learn, this is from marvels own mouth and marvels encyclopedia.

During combat with the psionic entity known as Onslaught, stated to possess power rivaling a Celestial,[11] Jean Grey psionically disables Bruce Banner's persona, to remove all restraints on the Hulk's rage. While trading punches, the Hulk is angered to a point where he is able to overcome Onslaught's strength and destroy his armour.[12] In the officially approved statistics of the "Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game" Hulk was listed as having a calm level strength of 20, but could reach at least 30 when enraged, the same as a Celestial. This can be compared to Thor and Juggernaut being listed at 19, Silver Surfer at 20, Thanos at 22, Destroyer at 24, and Surtur at 28.[13]

The Hulk possesses highly developed leg muscles which enable him to leap several miles at a time, and even longer distances while in an enraged state. He has been shown covering 1000 miles in a single leap,[14] and even jumping into a low-Earth orbit.[15]

Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game...

Strange will always be a top tier, it just depends on who you are measuring him up against.

Hand ninja. 'My cloak doesn't work under these conditions.' Unable to heal Aunt May. Had the crimson bands of cytorak broken by both namor and a super skrull.

Bendis era Strange is not top tier. Prove me wrong give me a top tier feat from Strange in the last three years.

Blackbolt: skrull, it doesnt matter, he lost, just deal with it.

Skrull Thor got taken down with the energy of a few power plants. I'm thinking Skrulls are below the one their copying.

Hercules: No matter if he had any attention or not, he got knocked the hell out. During the entire war hulk sigma hulk didnt have any attention of fighting anyone but he still didnt get knocked the hell out by attacks.

Hercules was never Knocked out.

Sentry has way to many low showings for him to above top tier. When Thanos gets one shotted by Ms Marvel give me a call.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanplanetbustinginfinityman.jpg

Now this could easily be construed as hyperbole. However its just as valid as random heroes screaming hulk will destroy the planet and ten times more relevent than your 'source' for Hulks celestial level strength.