Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Oh, the great Sephiroth. He is so awesome and powerful that he garners the largest fanbase of any RPG villain, and causes jealousy and hatred in fans of lesser beings. Don't hate Sephiroth because he's more popular than you're favorite villain, acknowledge him for his true greatness.
Sargeras is not my favorite villain. Far from it 😛 Could probably list 30-40 that is above him 😉
Rigard, Jafar and Priscilla is my favorite fictional villains ✅
All three, as well as Sargeras, would kick Sephiroth butt though 🤣
Originally posted by JerseyMage
I don't know much about WoW so heres my question to the more knowledgeable posters: If Sephiroth has any hope of winning it would be his super nova attack, so is Sargeras capable of surviving super nova if he was hit by it?
Super Nova is heat, right? Sargeras is immune to all heat-based attacks. That, as well as the fact that his body is nigh indestructable. Trough countless years (Thousands millenias at least) have Sargeras been in battle and he has not been harmed once. He has fought people that basically blasts mountains and not even the most powerful Guardian could harm him (That says A LOT)
I don't think immunity to heat would apply to the energy coming from the sun, if you look up thermal energy on wiki you can figure it out.
I can explain further if you want.
The better bet would be his indestructable body. All that remains then is to quantify his level of defense. If its high enough, I think he could survive super nova and defeat Sephiroth. Can you give more feats besides the mountain blasts, and explain further what the fact about the Guardians implies about his defense levels?
The Guardians are the most powerful magicians on Azeroth and are assigned to safeguard it from outer threat. Their magical level is extreme.
I am not sure what feats to bring up. He has fought billions, mighty magicians and a lot more and never gotten himself a scratch. He blessed Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden with near indestructable bodies as well. Archimonde could take a tackle from Malorne without a scratch. Malorne is a gigantic ram, that instead of blasting mountains would tackle them to pieces 😛
I would like to go so far as to say that Sargeras is unharmable by anything Sephiroth can bring forth. His one vulnerability is immortal magic, which is not something Sephiroth can bring forth. Even so, Sargeras soul is so well defended that not even an army of soul eaters could inflict damage on it.
He is basically the founder of Warlock magic, and going by that can he rise from the dead by store his soul on an alternative plane and re-enter his defeated body upon defeat.
The feats you mention are impressive but I think you should explain how those specific feats indicate he could survive a planet busting attack.
Would the feat of moving into an alternate plane and then returning to his body perhaps allow him to return to a different body i.e. one that isn't destroyed in the super nova blast, ? If so he could avoid the blast by transferring to a body on a different planet.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Well at least people who aren't biased will know Sephiroth is shit compared to really good antagonists like Grahf.
QFT. Grahf is one of the greatest villains in gaming history. Xenogears shits on FF7's story.
And Supernova is an illusion. It doesn't really bust planets.
Well you should have said that from the beginning. To survive supernova, Sargares doesnt need to do anything, since supernova would only destroy his physical body.
Moreover, you indicate that Sargares can still use magic to effect the physical world from his spirit form? Although some posters claim Sephiroth can harm spirits with his sword, and perhaps TK, supernova is not a spiritual attack, so he couldn't use it to kill Sargeras, which is what my initial claim called into question.
And planet busting is a figure of speech, in the FFVII story, Sephiroth did not succeed in his plan with meteor, which presumably wouldnt have destroyed all of the planets mass anyway. What I meant was that supernova is capable of destroying a plane, since it is capable of destroying most of the solar system.
That thing about swords harming spirits was silly. Just because his sword is based on a spirit or whatever, does not mean he can wound other spirits. And even if he can, nothing says he can do so to a fatal extent.
Because Sargeras is likely the most powerful spirit Sephiroth would ever encounter. He even as a spirit used magic on from another dimension (As in, he was in one dimension and had his magic apply in a second dimension)
Personally from what I have seen, Sargeras could simply stand motionless for a while without Sephiroth being able to scratch him. When he grows bored, he with a snap of his finger would drain the soul of Sephiroth. I have a strong feeling that Sephiroth's Super Nova is not instant.
Or, he could within the instant possess Sephiroth, like he did with Aegwynn. He then hides within Sephiroth without his knowledge a few hundred years for the sake of entertainment, then when he finally grow bored make Sephiroth kill himself 😛
I'm going to be completely honest.
Anyone who thinks Sephiroth wins is a fvckin moron.
The titans from Warcraft aren't pretender Gods like Seph is, they make worlds.
Sargeras can destroy Sephiroth in more ways than Seph can destroy a blade of grass.
And Seph, though I like him, is one of the most overrated characters in existence.
Originally posted by Becci
have a strong feeling that Sephiroth's Super Nova is not instant.
your feeling is right, look for yourself:
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even if Sarg allows Sephiroth to cast the spell then he would have to sit and w8 a long while before it hits him