Originally posted by Dark-JaxxSo he is stronger than the singular Universal concepts,
but not their Multi counterparts?
Although,
when Molecule Man and Beyonder fought,
reality withIN realities across "All Creation" (Omniverse) were warped.
They phrased it literally,
"from the Quantum to the Trans-Multiversal" ... and "All Creation"
"Trans-" as we know in this context means beyond. 🙂
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxSo when fighting together, they are Omniversal?
Classic Owen Reece was more powerful than the Living Tribunal.
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Current Owen Reece
is one of the Most powerful beings in the Marvel Omniverse, (all Creation)
according to the Living Tribunal himself.
The insane part is,
this is the limited version of current Owen Reece,
he has a wild side,
who calls himself the Molecule Man.
This beast, performed (mostly) a Trans-Multiversal feat On Panel,
while battling the current Beyonder.
That's literally BEYOND Multiversal ...
as we know Trans- means (BEYOND) ... the Living Tribunal wasn't hyperboling.
"from the Quantum to the Trans-Multiversal,
Reality trembles as the forces unleashed,
reverberate through out Creation" (Omniverse)
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Holy!
Current Beyonder (Cube Being) is also an uber-powerhouse
(somewhere beyond Universal)
current Beyonder 's death can actually cause,
"Havoc across Multiversal cosmography
"to rend the Life Force of such a being as the Beyonder"
... havoc unthinkable would be wrecked across Multiversal Cosmography"
And the Beyonder also embodies an entire Universe of his own,
where he is omnipotent:
(that's Eternity and the LT speaking btw in this last scan)
Originally posted by King KandyWell we don't know if current Beyonder is beyond Eternity.
As shown in GotG he is definitely weaker
Besides,
Eternity himself clearly stated that Beyonder operated on a Multiversal scale:
So as I myself stated earlier:
Eternity (multiverse) > Beyonder
Aspect of Eternity (single universe) < Beyonder
And if Beyonder dies,
the Multiverse also suffers,
solidifying his Multiversal status,
although Beyonder seems to affect realities in a Multi-Universal fashion.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Classic Owen Reece was more powerful than the Living Tribunal...............................................................................................
Current Owen Reece
is one of the Most powerful beings in the Marvel Omniverse, (all Creation)
according to the Living Tribunal himself.The insane part is,
this is the limited version of current Owen Reece,
he has a wild side,
who calls himself the Molecule Man.
Interesting. What are the first few scans from?
Originally posted by basiliskInteresting. What are the first few scans from?
Originally posted by TenebrousIsn't the Maker (female, blue skin) current Beyonder?
The Maker was a temporary form the Beyonder took which made him vulnerable.
The Maker was insane and weak due to it's mortal form,
and yet still had the power to reverse the crunch and crush the 616 Universe,
a power that was never realized because of the vulnerability it plagued itself with.
While the Maker was limited, the essence withIN (Beyonder) was/is omnipotent.
The latest incarnation of the Beyonder was during Illuminati.
Beyonder is back in his old skin.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Current Beyonder can not destroy the Multiverse. (Eternity is more powerful)But it seems Beyonder is more powerful than aspects of Eternity (single realities)
I'm not absolutely sure though cause he hasn't defeated one on panel yet,
but Beyonder definitely is capable of "Multiversal tamperings" (As Eternity put it)The embodiment of an entire Universe,
that can operate on a Multiversal scale,
and affect reality on a Multi-Universal scale. (not an entire Multiverse simultaneously)
So is he still less powerful than a Celestial?
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneSo is he still less powerful than a Celestial?
I'm not completely sure. (although nothing's been solidified otherwise)
We know the Beyonder's essence is an Omnipotent force,
that embodies an entire Universe,
operates on a Multiversal scale,
in a Multi-Universal fashion.
During Annihilation, Thanos said Beyonder's essence was unlimited power.
Gladiator called the Maker a God.
According to Thanos, had the Maker not made itself vulnerable and weak,
it could forcibly contract the "Crunch"
thus imploding the 616 Reality.
I simply can't or rather haven't seen a Celestial doing that,
then again, perhaps they can but don't because of cosmic protocol.
(uhh, not counting Scathan of course)
Question.
Since all the universes of the Marvel multiverse exist on the same physical space, separated only by vibrational frequency. If one unleashed the power to destroy a single universe, but said attack threw out multiple vibrational frequencies, wouldn't that attack destroy multiple universes?
Hope that made sense.
Originally posted by Galan007
Question.Since all the universes of the Marvel multiverse exist on the same physical space, separated only by vibrational frequency. If one unleashed the power to destroy a single universe, but said attack threw out multiple vibrational frequencies, wouldn't that attack destroy multiple universes?
Hope that made sense.
Personally, I've never heard of such a method.
Originally posted by Mr MasterMe either. It was just an 'in general' question, really.
I have no idea brother G.Personally, I've never heard of such a method.
It seems to make sense, when you think about it. I mean, all that seperates the Marvel multiverse is differing vibrational patterns. So a universe-busting attack emitting an array of vibrational signals should, in theory, destroy numerous universes [because said universes occupy the same space, but on different vibrational planes].
Originally posted by Mr Master
Current Beyonder can not destroy the Multiverse. (Eternity is more powerful)But it seems Beyonder is more powerful than aspects of Eternity (single realities)
I'm not absolutely sure though cause he hasn't defeated one on panel yet,
but Beyonder definitely is capable of "Multiversal tamperings" (As Eternity put it)The embodiment of an entire Universe,
that can operate on a Multiversal scale,
and affect reality on a Multi-Universal scale. (not an entire Multiverse simultaneously)
Eternity is universal not multiversal. I don't care what you have read but this is the way it is. Each universe has an Eternity and each Eternity is responsible for its own (a single) universe.
