Classic Dr. Strange vs. the Spectre!

Started by Mr Master6 pages

I'm thorough dude, perhaps you didn't know.
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Mr. Master, you're quite funny.


You been making me lmao since yesterday, so we're on the same page,
I suppose this is more amusement.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

All I did was make several statements.
And then you start a one-sided argument as if you and I were debating.[/B]


Actually all I did was correct your Dr Strange exaggerations,
this pissed you off,
then this made you come back with wannabee insults,
and a pompous attitude like you were teaching me something:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0

1. Allow me to teach you!

2. Well, allow me to teach you again!

3. Allow me to teach you thrice! (Hey, that rhymes!)


😆

This comedy is from page 2 of this thread.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

You can point out circumstances all you like,
but my statements were never wrong. [/B]


Yea, because we all saw Dr Strange hold his own against the IG, LOL!

Which btw. Also means Gamora and Pip held their own. 😂

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

And indeed, several of yours were.

Here I'm paraphrasing: 1) "Strange has only fought Death once."


So now you're going to start lying, on top of making exaggerated claims?

You said Strange "beat Death twice" ... LOL!

I said, "Not even once"

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=483307&pagenumber=2
(Tenth post yall.)

Which is true, Strange never has never defeated Death in a battle.

Death only tried to seduce Strange into accepting her embrace,
Strange overcame her temptations.

Good for Dr Strange, he has a strong will,
but this has NOTHING to do with Strange over-powering Death.

Nice try.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Go ahead and read the scan of their second encounter,
"You've beaten me, and once more won your life."
Those are her words, not mine.

Pretty simple. [/B]


What's simple is the context Death is speaking in.

Death didn't attack Strange, you seriously didn't know that?

Death was only trying to make Strange accept his inevitable fate ... Death!

Death clearly points out that her Conceptual purpose is part of the balance,
so Strange should embrace her:

Strange resists the temptation, nothing more.

That's how Death is defeated, NOT by getting over-powered as you tried to present it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

2) "Strange only opposed the LT's will once."

Those were your false assertions.
Not my fault the encounters I was referring to slipped your mind the first time around.


So you're fantasizing about supposed lies I posted? LOL!

You said Strange opposed the LT twice ... that's complete bull shit

Strange tried to oppose the LT's will back in 1967,
Strange was immediately humbled, nothing more happened:
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(first time around in issue #158)
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And the LT wasn't even trying to ever hurt Strange!

The LT was only testing Strange.
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(second time around in issue #163)
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Strange was just being a nuisance,
by trying to get in the way of the LT and Nebulos.

Owned!

Owned again!

That's it .. is this what you call "Strange opposing the LT's will twice?" 😆

He definitely tried. LOL!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

But then you had to go and accuse me of accusing you of lying through gibberish.

Nowhere did I do such a thing in my two posts.


Originally posted by OneDumbG0

you describe lies in the first scan below.


So, it seems this is another lie?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=483307&pagenumber=2
(15th Post)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Even past that, you continue to waste space
by explaining your scans as if you had something to add or debate. [/B]


I wasn't trying to add anything to the debate.

I was only disproving your Dr Strange exaggerations.

And I did disprove them.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

For instance,
I already pointed out myself that Dormammu incarnated himself in the flesh.
That surely didn't stop you from rescanning the same scan, resizing it,
quoting in italics and then posturing as if you're rebutting some point of mine.[/B]


And yet you started your post with,

"Stipulation?" ... hum

And you're right,
it didn't stop me from pointing that stipulation out,
which you seemed to have addressed but dismissed as a "nitpick."

it's not a "nitpick,"
it's simply the reason why Strange won.

Like I said from the beginning ... he defeats Dormy with stipulations.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I won't tell you how to spend your energy, but it's pretty misdirected.[/B]


Get this pompous garbage out of here dogs.

Atleast I don't bull shit
or make claims coming out of my ass.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Me: Yeah, he's 27 years old.
You: No he's not! He's a little older then 27 years old!
Me: Yeah, ok. That's true too. In fact, he is 27 and a half years old. But that's technically 27 years old.
You: Let me get his birth certificate! See here! He's 27 and 7 months old! Read it and weep! Don't accuse me of lying in the future!
Me: Yeah... okie dokie.[/B]


Gibberish, this off-topic inconsequential drivel.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

That pretty much characterizes most of your posts thereafter.
A focused rebuttal of something that I already know and pointed out myself. Waste of space. [/B]


1. You pointed out that Strange defeated Dormy without stipulations,
when in fact, the exact battle you post involves a stipulation.

2. You pointed out that Strange defeated the In-Betweener,
when in fact, it was Lord Order and Master Chaos' power that defeated the IB.

3. You pointed out that Strange defeated Death twice,
when in fact, Strange has never defeated Death even once in battle.

4. You pointed out that Strange held his own against Warlock w/IG,
when in fact, Warlock was never trying to hurt Strange,
and when in fact, Warlock used the Gems separately,
when in fact, Warlock only tried to hurt Strange once ... with the Power Gem ALONE!,
when in fact, Strange had Prep and All his Talismans combined,
and still got owned immediately, and nearly obliterated by the Power Gem ALONE
!

5. You pointed out that Strange opposed the LT's will twice,
when in fact, the LT was only testing Strange to use him the first time around,
and the second time, while the LT battled Nebulos,
the LT gestured Strange away twice instead.

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So basically, you were wrong on all 5 points,
that you supposedly already knew about.

Waste of space indeed. (on your part though)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Especially when I provided the scans already
so that everyone else could see what I was talking
about and form their own opinions.
I only clarified what I was referring to in my original post.


Actually you tried to explain what was going on in the scans,
I won't say you were lying, like you accused me of,
I rather say you simply didn't know what you were talking about.

The on panel facts speak for themselves.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I didn't go about trying to prove anything.
So please don't inject anything into it past that.


I never said you was trying to prove anything in your first post,
but the info you were posting was simply wrong.

Imo, you're not a jerk, a troll or liar because of it.

But in your second post replying to me, you do try and prove you're right,
with sarcasm and an arrogant undertone,
which is laughable considering you were still wrong.

I debate with love and respect, so long as the other party (such as yourself)
returns the same courtesy as I.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Strange pulls it off with prep.

Were you serious? I guess you were.

Spectre. No contest.

Why is even this debate between Dr. Strange and Spectre. And in crossover it was clearly seen that what LT is in Marvel, Spectre is in DC.

Upper limit of Spectre is immeasurably beyond any version of Stephen.

Originally posted by Xplosive

And in crossover it was clearly seen that what LT is in Marvel, Spectre is in DC.


I'm not saying Strange wins,
but if he loses,
it's not based on that analogy.

That cross-over is non-canon, so it's inconsequential.

There's no proof of any kind to suggest that the LT is weaker, equal or greater than Spectre,
or vice-versa.

personally, LT > Spectre imo...

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm not saying Strange wins,
but if he loses,
it's not based on that analogy.

That cross-over is non-canon, so it's inconsequential.

There's no proof of any kind to suggest that the LT is weaker, equal or greater than Spectre,
or vice-versa.

Nice scans of LT.

Btw, isn't jla/avengers canon?? 😎

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
personally, LT > Spectre imo...

nah. they both have the same role. they both serve thier respective gods. meaning they are given rule over what they see fit the spectre has more of a human touch thus he does things in a human way. while the lt is more mechanical in his approach. this is why it's nothing for him to erase a universe just for an imbalance sake. they have the same power. the same authority.

Originally posted by kevdude

Nice scans of LT.


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Originally posted by kevdude

Btw, isn't jla/avengers canon??


Only withIN the cross-over itself.

In other words, what takes place withIN legitimate company cross-overs,
is only consequential to said cross-over.
It has nothing to do with the real canonicity of Marvel and DC.

But anyway, jla/avengers has nothing to do with the LT.

Originally posted by fangirl101

nah. they both have the same role.

they have the same power. the same authority.


Where is this stated and/or depicted or even alluded to?

You can't make statements like this friend without some form of proof.

Originally posted by fangirl101
nah. they both have the same role. they both serve thier respective gods. meaning they are given rule over what they see fit the spectre has more of a human touch thus he does things in a human way. while the lt is more mechanical in his approach. this is why it's nothing for him to erase a universe just for an imbalance sake. they have the same power. the same authority.

au contraire...

Spectre is not a multiversal judge, he's a glorified Ghost Rider...

but i respect your opinion...

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One is a cosmic judge of sorts, while the other is the embodiment of god's wrath.

Though both pass judgement in their own way, I wouldn't quite be prepared to say LT and Spectre have the same role.

Peers I can see...same role..no.

Spectre is nowhere close to LT

Spectre loves to mettle in mortal affairs, LT is far far beyond such trivial matters

Spectre's role is akin to the Watchers, albeit Spectre is alot more powerful

but he's nowhere close to the allencompassing power of Living Tribunal

Spectre

Spectre FTW

Originally posted by Xplosive
Were you serious? I guess you were.

Spectre. No contest.

Why is even this debate between Dr. Strange and Spectre. And in crossover it was clearly seen that what LT is in Marvel, Spectre is in DC.

Upper limit of Spectre is immeasurably beyond any version of Stephen.

Master already said its noncanon.

Do you really think Wolverine can beat Lobo or that Storm can beat WW?

Originally posted by Starscream M
Spectre is nowhere close to LT

Spectre loves to mettle in mortal affairs, LT is far far beyond such trivial matters

Spectre's role is akin to the Watchers, albeit Spectre is alot more powerful

but he's nowhere close to the allencompassing power of Living Tribunal

Spectre is powerful but you are correct that the Lt is more powerful.

Spectre can imo at times be placed very confidently on LT's level. On other times he cannot, he varies in power something LT doesn't.

However in this thread Spectre ftw.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Where is this stated and/or depicted or even alluded to?

You can't make statements like this friend without some form of proof.

well if you want to get technical, the lt is like a judge. the spectre is like the officer that deals out the punishment.

in the real world, the judge has the authority, but the officer clearly can kick the judges ass at any time he wishes. bound only by a code of morality. if god tells the spectre to defeat a being, destroy a universe, what is going to stop him from doing so?

Originally posted by fangirl101
well if you want to get technical, the lt is like a judge. the spectre is like the officer that deals out the punishment.

in the real world, the judge has the authority, but the officer clearly can kick the judges ass at any time he wishes. bound only by a code of morality. if god tells the spectre to defeat a being, destroy a universe, what is going to stop him from doing so?

It depends on the judge and the guard. And in the real world the officer would get restrained by the other officers by the judge who has authority in the courtroom.