Who is faster, Nightcrawler or the Flash?

Flash and Nightcrawler are in the center of a large city. They decide to race to an area on the edge of the city. Nightcrawler has this area imprinted in his mind. Can the Flash beat Nightcrawler?

If NC's 'porting = instantaneous, then he should win.

That is the purpose of this thread. Is there ever a scenario where the Flash is faster than teleportation?

Originally posted by Galan007
If NC's 'porting = instantaneous, then he should win.

It's not. Several people (Wolverine comes to mind) have reacted to it. Besides Wally has out raced the thoughts of people trying to teleport.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's not. Several people (Wolverine comes to mind) have reacted to it. Besides Wally has out raced the thoughts of people trying to teleport.

i don't believe nightcrawler's teleporting is instantaneous. it's rather close, i would suppose, but the slipping between dimensional walls and realignment of his body and all that takes some very, very brief amounts of time. add into the equation that flash's body can move at speeds that defy the electrical signals a normal body could send, meaning he can start running before kurt even gets the mental command "teleport" through his head. it's close. maybe it depends on the distance. we don't know enough about the time aspect of kurt's teleporting.

flash easily

I think it depends on the actual distance. The longer the distance, the best chance NC has.

So, do obstacles have a determining factor?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
So, do obstacles have a determining factor?

Every Flash since Barry has been able to phase through objects.

Not so much for Flash since his reflexes are as fast as he is. Doesnt NC have an extra sens ethat doesnt allow him to teleport into solid objects?

Last I remember, Nightcrawler can only teleport a few miles at a time. Even though it's instant, it would take him a few jumps to reach the edge of a major city. I suspect a speedforce-added Flash could best even that.

What's the maximum distance Nightcrawler can go in a single teleport? I still think Flash takes it. If he can clear an entire city during a nuclear explosion, he can outrun Kurt's teleporting, in my opinion.

2 miles but according to wiki he has done 50 miles.

Flash wins.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Flash and Nightcrawler are in the center of a large city. They decide to race to an area on the edge of the city. Nightcrawler has this area imprinted in his mind. Can the Flash beat Nightcrawler?

I gotta ask this....which of all the Flashes do you have in mind?

Jay, Bart, Barry, or Wally?

I was thinking it was Barry all along. If it is Jay Garrick, NC wins. lol.

I know there's a scan of Flash beating "instantaneous travel," so even if Nightcrawler's teleportation was instant, the Flash would still win.

It was explained as him moving faster than the thought to teleport could be made IIRC.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It was explained as him moving faster than the thought to teleport could be made IIRC.

Edit: Here we go:
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