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Started by Apolloknight6 pages
Originally posted by Battlehammer

One on One h2h fight intelligences means nothing. Your not going to be out smarting your opponent unless there complete morons. Skill is a real factor. Hell instincts is far bigger factor in a one on one fight as well in an areana setting.

Don't care what you guys are talking about (I seriously forgot what thread I was reading when I read this so whatever its about I could care less who wins).

But battlehammer, if you think intelligence means nothing in H2H combat, you are sadly misguided.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Don't care what you guys are talking about (I seriously forgot what thread I was reading when I read this so whatever its about I could care less who wins).

But battlehammer, if you think intelligence means nothing in H2H combat, you are sadly misguided.

Thats putting it midly. Apollos back. w00t

Not really. There are different sorts of intelligences. Just becuases some one IQ is hirer does not mean it will aid them in a h2h fight.

Instincts are far greater in this type of scenerio.

He not fighting rhino here. he not going to be tricking anything into beating them selfs. intellect not going to play a factor.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Which issue?
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not really. There are different sorts of intelligences. Just becuases some one IQ is hirer does not mean it will aid them in a h2h fight.

Instincts are far greater in this type of scenerio.

He not fighting rhino here. he not going to be tricking anything into beating them selfs. intellect not going to play a factor.

Fail. 👇

Im at school it final week I get the issue to you later.

how did I fail? I mean by your logic you must assume batman beats capt. I mean batman IQ is greater so according to you that means he wins.

it awful Logic. Being more intelligent does not mean you have an advantage in 10n 1 fight. some of the best UFC fighters are as dumb as rocks, but when it comes to fighting there amazing.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Im at school it final week I get the issue to you later.

how did I fail? I mean by your logic you must assume batman beats capt. I mean batman IQ is greater so according to you that means he wins.

it awful Logic. Being more intelligent does not mean you have an advantage in 10n 1 fight. some of the best UFC fighters are as dumb as rocks, but when it comes to fighting there amazing.

Im not saying he beats Wolverine im just saying intelligence will obvoulsy help.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not saying he beats Wolverine im just saying intelligence will obvoulsy help.

why will it help?

does not help in MMA, nor boxing, nor pritty much any sport.

instincts are more highly prized then ones intellect in h2h combat

Originally posted by Battlehammer
why will it help?

does not help in MMA, nor boxing, nor pritty much any sport.

instincts are more highly prized then ones intellect in h2h combat

Man im not even gonna argue with you. Do yourself a favour and PLEASE think about the stupidity of that statement. 😐

intellect really not going to be any deciding factor in any of theses match ups.

oh add capt vs batman to the list.

also U.S Agent vs Batman

Originally posted by Battlehammer
intellect really not going to be any deciding factor in any of theses match ups.

oh add capt vs batman to the list.

also U.S Agent vs Batman

Like I said im not arguing that Batman wins im simply arguing that intelligence helps in martial arts.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Man im not even gonna argue with you. Do yourself a favour and PLEASE think about the stupidity of that statement. 😐

..........there nothing dumb about it.

One intellectual ability will not be a deciding factor in a hand to ahnd fight unless one of the opponet is retarded.

There different forms of intellect as well.

Look at tyson for one he a complete and utter idiot and yet he was at one time one of the best boxer in the world.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Like I said im not arguing that Batman wins im simply arguing that intelligence helps in martial arts.

Won't really matter in a fight. If he battle DD or capt or pritty much any one on the list he not winning due to being smarter then his opponet.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Won't really matter in a fight. If he battle DD or capt or pritty much any one on the list he not winning due to being smarter then his opponet.

Ok I agree with that but like it said intelligence obvoulsy helps......

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok I agree with that but like it said intelligence obvoulsy helps......

slightly, but by no margin that worth mentioning.

hell instincts helps you as well, likly greater in such a scenerio, but still it really not worth mentioning as well.

any one here like or read thunder cats?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Im at school it final week I get the issue to you later.

how did I fail? I mean by your logic you must assume batman beats capt. I mean batman IQ is greater so according to you that means he wins.

it awful Logic. Being more intelligent does not mean you have an advantage in 10n 1 fight. some of the best UFC fighters are as dumb as rocks, but when it comes to fighting there amazing.

Your thinking of two different types of intellect, you think fighting is all about instinct and its not. Let me, let you know something.

The reason why you are misguided in the first place is because you assume im talking about book smarts, which im not. Truly if you could see beyond the word "intelligence" you would know that there are many different types.

Even this "instinct" word you keep throwing around is simply not applied to just H2H combat.

"Man I couldn't figure out question 42 on my test but my instincts keep telling me to go with C."

"Was it right?"

"Sure was!"

You see, although he didn't know the answer to the question, something keep telling him the answer was C. Maybe the answer was posted on the board a few weeks earlier and although he didn't read it his mind sublimely picked it up. Or he may of been reading it one tired night and again didn't register it but his mind, sublimely, picked it up. When it came time for test day, although he couldn't remember where he saw it or why it looked so familiar, he somehow knew the right answer was C. He didn't know why or how, but he knew that was the right answer. (although if he would of actually studied and payed attention he could of saved himself much hassle during the test and intelligently picked the right answer.)

Lets apply this logic to fighting.

Most pro fighters are already in amazing condition and although they still work out religiously, how can one get better at fighting?

You say the professional fighters fight with nothing but instinct, remember you said intelligence doesn't matter. But if that's the case, why do they study tapes so hard before a big fight?

They watch, and watch and watch and watch and look for small holes in their opponents defense in which they can exploit. They practice and practice on their own weakness because if they are an "intelligent" fighter they are already going to know their opponent is putting in the same video review looking for any weakness in their game.

After many weeks and long hours of practice and review fight night arrives. He's gathered everything he knows on the fighter and at the same time worked on his own weakness.

In all the tapes he's watched he knows, that his foe is absolutely horrible at defending the overhand right after committing to an attack. He also knows that his opponent is amazingly strong and with but a few clean blows can put him down. He already knows to intelligently watch his punches, for one false move may be his last.

As the fight starts and goes on his body starts to, hmm, not really forget about the overhand right , but its no where near the forefront of his thoughts.

This is where, battlehammer your instincts take over, but not in the manner you speak of. You see because he studied the fight so much, he now doesn't have to think about how strong his opponent is, his body knows it, he doesn't have to think about watching his punches, his body automatically does it for him.

His body is on auto-pilot and everything is a controlled blur (any body who has fought organized before knows what the hell im talking about).

Suddenly his foe commits to an attack and NOW his "instincts" take over. His body automatically throws an overhand right, he didn't think about, his body just did it.

Clean hit, his foe goes down, fights over.

Do you see where Im coming from battlehammer?

Yes his instincts may have taken over but, it was his intelligence that gave him the edge. He wouldn't of instinctively knew to throw that punch if he didn't put in the long days of work. He studied his opponent and it paid off.

And although the fight ended with an instinctive Overhand right, the punch actually originated from a small gym, or even a house, where the fighter sat by himself or with his trainer, and found out his opponent was weak against that punch.

Now im not saying intelligence wins every fight, hell im not even saying it wins a majority, I mean crazy s*** does happen.

But what I know for a fact is that intelligence DOES matter.

apollo I have you block I can't even read what your saying. nor do I really care. I bet it a bunch of nonsenses were you completely missed what I was saying

Im not even sure why I have you block wierd.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
apollo I have you block I can't even read what your saying. nor do I really care. I bet it a bunch of nonsenses were you completely missed what I was saying

That's cool friend, I have no problem with you. I don't hold grudges in any aspect of my life and truly not on an Internet forum where I know nobody personally and debate "comic book characters".

Just trying to let you know how I see things.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
apollo I have you block I can't even read what your saying. nor do I really care. I bet it a bunch of nonsenses were you completely missed what I was saying

Do yourself a favour, calm down, dont assume hes talking nonsense and try reading it again.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Do yourself a favour, calm down, dont assume hes talking nonsense and try reading it again.

im quite calm. I did not read it in the first places............I told you I have him blocked...............

And as I said being smarter in theses match ups are not going to give him any advantage that would give him wins. It be his skills and other atrributes if anything.