Yes. And Monarch actually had an edge in their battle while the Guardian amp was in play. When he gets pissed, after losing it, is when he rips open Monarch's suit.Also, Countdown: Arena and Countdown don't really suggest Monarch being on the level of, say, Surtur, who is capable of killing Odin - a bonafide elite skyfather.
What 'edge' are you talking about ? In their fist brief fight, Prime has him down, dominating him physically, when Monarch pulls the energy card and gets him off of him. Prime comes back, at this point his Guardian Power-up pretty much being gone, and even in this state manages to rip his armor off and survive the blast that destroyed the Universe.
You mean the Countdown Arena where Monarch effortlessly owns Supermen and such, before absorbing the other Captain Atoms ? Lulz.
Yeah, but 'survived' and 'tanked' are two different things. He was still KO'd and probably half dead.
Ko'd ? Half dead ? You know, assuming stuff without any basis just to make it seem like you have an argument is called trolling.
The blast literally exploded point-blank in his face once he ripped Monarch's armor. In Legion of 3 Worlds, he was shown as apparently floating into the void, when Time Trapper grabbed him and threw him in the 31st century, where he showed no sign of being 'half-dead', or even injury in fact.
Gotta say, this was impressive. Although it doesn't really translate into a combat ability. I'd think that would be ease when you've got retard-Superman type strength and are immune to magic. But that's just me. wink
It is an impressive feat, a testament to his power. You said he doesn't really have any feat excepting slaughtering a few alternate-Universe heroes. I used this just as another example that proved you wrong.
And I really like Prime. I just don't see him being able to do anything to Galactus or Surtur. And Uatu = laughable.
What you see or not has no relevance. On-panel is what counts. And I don't really care about Uatu, which is why I didn't even mention him.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaAre you serious?
That too, but mostly Prime.
Originally posted by BentleyHe isnt above Odin or Thanos. I dont know what you are basing this off of.
Truth to be told Prime has shown to be above most Sky fathers until now, it really depends in how Prime and the Am would fare together against Galactus. Team two has arguably, more gun power than team 1, who is holding into Galactus to win.Cannot comment on Yugah Khan but he was beaten before by Darkseid, right?
Originally posted by PhilosophíaWhat 'edge' are you talking about ? In their fist brief fight, Prime has him down, dominating him physically, when Monarch pulls the energy card and gets him off of him. Prime comes back, at this point his Guardian Power-up pretty much being gone, and even in this state manages to rip his armor off and survive the blast that destroyed the Universe.
You mean the Countdown Arena where Monarch effortlessly owns Supermen and such, before absorbing the other Captain Atoms ? Lulz.
Ko'd ? Half dead ? You know, assuming stuff without any basis just to make it seem like you have an argument is called trolling.
The blast literally exploded point-blank in his face once he ripped Monarch's armor. In Legion of 3 Worlds, he was shown as apparently floating into the void, when Time Trapper grabbed him and threw him in the 31st century, where he showed no sign of being 'half-dead', or even injury in fact.
It is an impressive feat, a testament to his power. You said he doesn't really have any feat excepting slaughtering a few alternate-Universe heroes. I used this just as another example that proved you wrong.
What you see or not has no relevance. On-panel is what counts. And I don't really care about Uatu, which is why I didn't even mention him.
(I'm starting to like this smilie)
Originally posted by BentleyWhich skyfather level characters has he beaten?
Quite often Prime has been faced by skyfather level characters, or well stablished above heralds -such as the guardians, Ion and Monarch- and he has endured their worst. He is above sky-father, and we are giving him the guardian boost.
Monarch was due to his armor being opened. Monarch also wasnt getting serious and allowed Prime the opportunity to win this fight.
Originally posted by BentleyGuardian killed himself. Prime ha dnothing to do with that. Am just took a galaxy destroying blast and Prime bfr'd him right after. really,who has he beaten that makes you put him above skyfather?
The Guardian? The Anti-Monitor? Those guys died without surpassing Prime's durability. Monarch exploded and didn't destroy him.
Originally posted by BentleyNo,it doesnt. Thats what they do. A guardian is also nothing compared to Odin imo. Prime was bfr'd and was gotten rid of. I see you have nothing.
A sky father level character choose to kill himself in order to stop him, it didn't work, so taking the best kamikaze attack from a sky-father counts as besting one.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No,it doesnt. Thats what they do. A guardian is also nothing compared to Odin imo. Prime was bfr'd and was gotten rid of. I see you have nothing.
Prime survived anti-matter by dragging the AM to destroy him, in the Marvel Universe a cosmic Red Skull who humbled Thor and Korvac died against anti-matter. After that he was separated atom by atom by a Guardian who killed himself to destroy him. Then he travelled different dimensions unaided by flying and broke into the fifth dimension.
Two lone Guardians just created a whole new lantern corps.
You dismissing the feats doesn't make them go away Quan, he has been consistently shown as something beyond mere herald.
Originally posted by BentleyNo,he hasnt. I agree that he is very powerful. He hasnt shown that he can defeat the Am or a single Guardian imo. He tried breaking free from the suicide blast and was powerless to do so.
Prime survived anti-matter by dragging the AM to destroy him, in the Marvel Universe a cosmic Red Skull who humbled Thor and Korvac died against anti-matter. After that he was separated atom by atom by a Guardian who killed himself to destroy him. Then he travelled different dimensions unaided by flying and broke into the fifth dimension.Two lone Guardians just created a whole new lantern corps.
You dismissing the feats doesn't make them go away Quan, he has been consistently shown as something beyond mere herald.
Im not at all impressed by the Guardians anyways.
I think when this legion of worlds is all said and done we will finally have something to properly gauge Prime at.
Originally posted by BentleyThanos would be able to break free from the Surfer's grip. Prime was unable to do so.
This wasn't just any attack, this was a Guardian going all out to destroy Prime, of course he used everything in his power to hold him.If Surfer pulled something similar on Thanos he wouldn't be able to dodge either.
If Odin sacrifies himself to destroy someone and fails, who is more powerful?
You have an excellent feat and you focus in something that filled obvious plot advance. Of course the heros had to win, and the best they managed was a brf. Do you really have to fix yourself on petty things to undermine Prime?