Skyfather vs Odin

Shazam is a respectable skyfather imo when it comes to power level. Darkseid and Izaya prior to fc(I know Izaya hasnt been shown yet,but all the new gods power levels rose according to this writer) are top tier level imo and nowhere near skyfather level.

Originally posted by fangirl101
TOAA jobs.

When has that happened? You mean the Celestial?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Odin Jobs.
The LT Jobs
Thanos Jobbers himself.
Surfer Jobs.
Thor Jobs.
TOAA jobs.

Live by it.

Originally posted by Bentley
When has that happened? You mean the Celestial?

Originally posted by fangirl101
He jobbed when he couldn't fix a universal flaw and had to have thanos do it. That is a big jobber. He jobbed when he let the beyonder come into his hood and take over.

You mean when things happened exactly how TOAA wanted them to happen?

I guess that Reed jobs to everyone when he owns people with his prep.

Originally posted by Bentley
You mean when things happened exactly how TOAA wanted them to happen?

I guess that Reed jobs to everyone when he owns people with him prep.

Originally posted by Bentley
You mean when things happened exactly how TOAA wanted them to happen?

I guess that Reed jobs to everyone when he owns people with his prep.

Originally posted by fangirl101
So if everything happened exactly how TOAA wanted them to, then when did Thanos ever have control? Ha. catch 22. either thanos was never God, or TOAA jobbed. Take your pick.

I think you jumped several implications there, care to explain why we can only pick between those options?

Originally posted by Bentley
I think you jumped several implications there, care to explain why we can only pick between those options?

Originally posted by fangirl101
The Supreme being is always in control. So if everything happened the way TOAA wanted it to, then he was always Supreme and Thanos never was.

Why? He is always in control, he controlled the final result. What does Thanos having power or not has to do with anything?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Or TOAA couldn't fix the flaw becuz he is NOT supreme and lacked the will, and thus a jobber,and Thanos fixed the flaw. You can't have it both ways. It has to be one or the other.

TOAA fixed the flaw using Thanos. Where does this lack of will idea comes from? The flaw was fixed when and how TOAA wanted, everything to his will and how he elected to do it.

Is the flaw fixed? Yes. TOAA wanted to fix it? Yeah. So? I don't see the problem.

Actually, The Old Gods of the DCU are extremely powerful. Orion was at awe of some of them and 3 Old Gods split the Source in half, which is a crazy feat.

Originally posted by cloud102
Actually, The Old Gods of the DCU are extremely powerful. Orion was at awe of some of them and 3 Old Gods split the Source in half, which is a crazy feat.

And yet again, another time in which the Source jobs.

(Not to diminish the feat, the old gods head and shoulders above other characters, but if we take the Source as actually omnipotent, it happens to job as much as Eternity)

Still a nice feat to have. Something is better than nothing, seeing as these Old Gods have very little showings.

Odin also created a pocket universe, which is cool.

Originally posted by cloud102
Still a nice feat to have. Something is better than nothing, seeing as these Old Gods have very little showings.

Odin also created a pocket universe, which is cool.

I agree since I would take someone who can challenge Eternity (even jobbing) under his own power before simple no-feat Tyrant-like characters.

Originally posted by cloud102

Odin also created a pocket universe, which is cool.

Stay on topic friends. All the talk about the TOAA will prolly close another thread

Odin wins