Look at this, maybe it'll change your mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8rTrIZ_iY&NR=1
Look at this, maybe it'll change your mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8rTrIZ_iY&NR=1
Originally posted by carver9
Look at this, maybe it'll change your mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8rTrIZ_iY&NR=1
No need. I've seen the entire series from DB, DBZ, and GT. Nothing that I've ever seen watching DBZ will change my mind. You need to step into the light.
Originally posted by carver9😕 Still avoiding the question I asked?
What you fail to realize is that superman HIS ENTIRE CAREER has done nothing but fought bricks and has been stalemated, beat, and actually killed by bricks. You have a handful of showings with superman using combat speed and think that is something amazing that would put him on the scales of a dbz character. What you fail to realize is that a brick wont stand a chance against someone like goku or even krillin, beings that would run circles around them. What you also fail to realize is that a superman vs dbz characters has been written at least 4 times ending with superman getting crushed.I brought up captain ginyu flinching his arm throwing beings out of orbit which is a feat that is in thors caliber and you discredit that. I bring up a feat of a goku that had the powerlevel of 600 knocking down a tree that weighed 100's of tons and carried it over his head like it was nothing and you discredit it. I show you goku punching someone through two mountains which again is a feat in thors league and you discredit it but I bring up things about superman getting knocked the hell out by kalibak who might be even slower then batman and bring up superman getting kicked in the face by batman which drew blood and is actually being stalemated by batman and you say its pis.
Now thats funny.
Now i want you to show me goku ever being handled by a mere human or even a peak human. It should be hard since you do say that superman is over goku.
And yea the Ginyu thing..Filler. As is most of the stuff you talk about. Also the two people that have killed Superman that I know have had speed. Doomsday was said to be faster than Flash though that was before Flash was as fast as he is now but still impressive, and the guy who killed him in Obsidian was able to catch Flash and rip his legs off. And yea...being faster means zilch if you can't hurt a person. Quicksilver is faster than Cain but he isn't going to win that fight. Wizard fights aren't exactly something to take literal. They are about as useful as me bringing up the fancomics that have been made where Gokou looses. Never seen you bring up the tree feat...And um yea what chapter was that in so I can go check that out...unless of course it's another filler thing. Kalibak is stronger than Z characters....And when has Batman ever kicked Superman and made him bleed?
Originally posted by Kento
😕 Still avoiding the question I asked?And yea the Ginyu thing..Filler. As is most of the stuff you talk about. Also the two people that have killed Superman that I know have had speed. Doomsday was said to be faster than Flash though that was before Flash was as fast as he is now but still impressive, and the guy who killed him in Obsidian was able to catch Flash and rip his legs off. And yea...being faster means zilch if you can't hurt a person. Quicksilver is faster than Cain but he isn't going to win that fight. Wizard fights aren't exactly something to take literal. They are about as useful as me bringing up the fancomics that have been made where Gokou looses. Never seen you bring up the tree feat...And um yea what chapter was that in so I can go check that out...unless of course it's another filler thing. Kalibak is stronger than Z characters....And when has Batman ever kicked Superman and made him bleed?
That wasnt filler, its in the anime about captain ginyu. Look at the 1st pages of the raditz saga and you'll see goku carrying a tree.
Booster gold quoted a speed feat for doomsday and you think that its relevant. Answer this, does booster gold have any kind of super speed to even being able to quote a speed for anyone. Hell if he fought wolverine he might think the same damn thing.
I know being faster dont mean anything but thats not the only reason Im giving goku or any other dbz character a win over superman, goku is overall just more powerful and better.
If a comic was to come out and goku stomps superman again, you all wont accept it because its none cannon so we have to base our judgement off of something and the fights that they have been in would be the best ones.
Look at some of the batman and superman fights. You'll see blood, I dont have the comic, I just looked at it a while back but its in the batman respect thread.
Originally posted by Kento
😕 Still avoiding the question I asked?And yea the Ginyu thing..Filler. As is most of the stuff you talk about. Also the two people that have killed Superman that I know have had speed. Doomsday was said to be faster than Flash though that was before Flash was as fast as he is now but still impressive, and the guy who killed him in Obsidian was able to catch Flash and rip his legs off. And yea...being faster means zilch if you can't hurt a person. Quicksilver is faster than Cain but he isn't going to win that fight. Wizard fights aren't exactly something to take literal. They are about as useful as me bringing up the fancomics that have been made where Gokou looses. Never seen you bring up the tree feat...And um yea what chapter was that in so I can go check that out...unless of course it's another filler thing. Kalibak is stronger than Z characters....And when has Batman ever kicked Superman and made him bleed?
oh, by the way, the answer to your question is, can flash fly and can he take a city destroying blast.
Originally posted by carver9Um yea that part is filler. It wasn't in the manga. And I'll check out the tree thing in a few minutes.
That wasnt filler, its in the anime about captain ginyu. Look at the 1st pages of the raditz saga and you'll see goku carrying a tree.Booster gold quoted a speed feat for doomsday and you think that its relevant. Answer this, does booster gold have any kind of super speed to even being able to quote a speed for anyone. Hell if he fought wolverine he might think the same damn thing.
I know being faster dont mean anything but thats not the only reason Im giving goku or any other dbz character a win over superman, goku is overall just more powerful and better.
If a comic was to come out and goku stomps superman again, you all wont accept it because its none cannon so we have to base our judgement off of something and the fights that they have been in would be the best ones.
Look at some of the batman and superman fights. You'll see blood, I dont have the comic, I just looked at it a while back but its in the batman respect thread.
Seeing as how Flash wasn't as godly fast back then as he is now..Yea I say it's pretty relevant to him being faster. I even said even though Flash wasn't as fast then as he is now. And Doomsday is still plenty stronger than any Z character. And here I am sucked back into the thing I didn't want to be.
Gokou better than Superman at what? The only thing he's got an advantage is fighting skill.
Unless that comic is somehow done by Akira and DC and set in the main DCU somehow yea it'll be non-canon. Just because something happens in a comic doesn't mean it's true anyway. Logan vs Lobo ringing any bells? Superboy vs Spider-man? Didn't Hulk and Superman knock away Juggernaut as he was coming at them before their fight? Quicksilver keeping up with Flash? Jubille vs Robin? Need I go on with the crossovers from DC vs Marvel?
You sure the fight you're referring to between Bats and Supes wasn't when Bats was amped by Blackrock?
That's also not an answer to the question about how they are going to do anything when all they are unable to move because he takes all their speed away. They won't be able to fly blast or do anything.
Originally posted by Kento
Um yea that part is filler. It wasn't in the manga. And I'll check out the tree thing in a few minutes.Seeing as how Flash wasn't as godly fast back then as he is now..Yea I say it's pretty relevant to him being faster. I even said even though Flash wasn't as fast then as he is now. And Doomsday is still plenty stronger than any Z character. And here I am sucked back into the thing I didn't want to be.
Gokou better than Superman at what? The only thing he's got an advantage is fighting skill.
Unless that comic is somehow done by Akira and DC and set in the main DCU somehow yea it'll be non-canon. Just because something happens in a comic doesn't mean it's true anyway. Logan vs Lobo ringing any bells? Superboy vs Spider-man? Didn't Hulk and Superman knock away Juggernaut as he was coming at them before their fight? Quicksilver keeping up with Flash? Jubille vs Robin? Need I go on with the crossovers from DC vs Marvel?
You sure the fight you're referring to between Bats and Supes wasn't when Bats was amped by Blackrock?
That's also not an answer to the question about how they are going to do anything when all they are unable to move because he takes all their speed away. They won't be able to fly blast or do anything.
Again wasnt filler but if you want to call it filler then Im not going to argue with you on that since they have other feats that puts them above 100 tonners.
It doesnt matter how fast flash was back then, doomsday showed nothing of speed since his creation. People as less then batman has kept up with him. Doomsday isnt nothing but a rip off of hulk that was quoted a speed that have never been shown. Hell maxima dont move anywhere near the speed of flash but she was stomping dos doomsday. Why couldnt he land a lick if he has flash speed.
That will never happen but all the fights that superman and goku have been wasnt fan voted like the ones you are bringing up. Now I can tell you some that wasnt fan voted. Superman getting stomped by venom, that wasnt fan voted, that was depicted by a superman writer. By the way that wasnt juggernaut that hulk and superman hit, it was metallo.
Goku is overrall better then superman in almost everything. When superman stops struggling against bricks then I would consider him on nappa league but until then.
Look at all of the batman vs superman fights, would you like for me to show you one?
They dont have to worry about him touching them since goku HAS dodged a 1000 punches within a millisecond so dodging flash hand shouldnt be a problem.
Originally posted by carver9Are any of those feat in the manga?
Again wasnt filler but if you want to call it filler then Im not going to argue with you on that since they have other feats that puts them above 100 tonners.It doesnt matter how fast flash was back then, doomsday showed nothing of speed since his creation. People as less then batman has kept up with him. Doomsday isnt nothing but a rip off of hulk that was quoted a speed that have never been shown. Hell maxima dont move anywhere near the speed of flash but she was stomping dos doomsday. Why couldnt he land a lick if he has flash speed.
That will never happen but all the fights that superman and goku have been wasnt fan voted like the ones you are bringing up. Now I can tell you some that wasnt fan voted. Superman getting stomped by venom, that wasnt fan voted, that was depicted by a superman writer. By the way that wasnt juggernaut that hulk and superman hit, it was metallo.
Goku is overrall better then superman in almost everything. When superman stops struggling against bricks then I would consider him on nappa league but until then.
Look at all of the batman vs superman fights, would you like for me to show you one?
They dont have to worry about him touching them since goku HAS dodged a 1000 punches within a millisecond so dodging flash hand shouldnt be a problem.
Didn't Superman comment on his speed a few times also? Even if he isn't Flash level speed no Z warrior is going to come close to beating Doomsday when the won't be able to hurt him..well maybe DOS or Rex but that's about it. Superman and Doomsday also grew a lot more powerful after that fight.
Crossovers aren't canon...and do you really believe Venom should be a problem to Superman who fights people a lot stronger nearly all the time? Really Metallo? I thought it was somebody else. Oh well.
Superman doesn't struggle with bricks when he gets serious. And yea I looked through the Batman respect thread and didn't see the Batman kicking Superman to make him bleed with a kick. Unless you're talking about Hush when he is using Kryptonite, Superman is fighting against Poison Ivy's control, and he specifically states Superman is holding back and could use his speed and crush him if he wanted.
😆 When has Gokou ever dodged a thousand punches a millisecond? And Flash doesn't have to touch something to steal it's speed as far as I know.
Wow just wow,not only has supes recently takin blasts from an source amped inf man and gave him a little back he also knocked the hell out of a guy with not only his powers but of the entire legion of super heroes as well....dbz chars never have and never will touch superman,any one in this thread can solo.
Originally posted by Combat_GuruOh dear lord.
[B]ATTENTION I have been granted permission from Captain Rex to post a Shonen Jump vs DC thread, because by all means a Manga is a comic book.Here is Vegetto's array of powers, well at least the important ones.
Everyone of Vegeta's attacks.
Everyone of Goku's attacks.
Instant Transmission.
Force Field.
Super Kamehameha.
An Amalgam of Vegeta's Best attacks and Goku's Best attacks.
Chi Steak (A focused blade of Chi that can impale stuff.)
He can shoot not one, but many Chi blasts out of one hand.
He can make objects with Chi the same way Green Lantern can with the GL Ring.These were all of the powers we saw in the DBZ Manga.
He can go SSJ3. [/B]
All beat him on their own.
I really don't have an opinon on this but here's a thought:
Piccollo, in the sayian saga blew up the moon........while standing on earth...............Think about his power level at the time............. Now ask how many dc/marvel characters can match that feat........Also in that same saga, Radditz caught a bullet with two fingers..........Just something to think about......Now compare their (sayain saga) power levels to that of Vegitto's in the Buu saga.........see where i'm going with this?
Originally posted by llagrok
Vegito has pretty impressive durability though, no matter how you cut it these guys take planet busting attacks and survive relatively easily.Their speed might be one thing, but pretty much all the Super Saiyan + fighters have insane durability. Flash would carry this, thanks to his speed.
Originally posted by llagrok
Vladd, died?Broly did it relatively easy, Buu was destroying galaxies, Frieza easily destroyed a planet in his weakest form.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Filler filler and non canon movie character,ima take you havnt actually read the manga....buu only destroyed planets,frieza wasnt shown destroying planet vegeta in his base form,vegeta never destroyed a planet on the way to earth and broly was in the movies which arent canon to actual dbz,planet busting was the maximum shown in dbz and every character who ever tried to tank those died.
And Goku knew his Kameha could destroy Kid Boo, who could survive a vaporizing planet blast, Gohan plowed through a planet destroying kameha with a smaller kameha of his own, and Cell stated that he had enough Chi to destroy a solar system....
They aren't much compared to some of Superman's higher tier feats, but they aren't much to base Vegetto either, at all, and Vegetto has the power ups that multiply his power.
Originally posted by Combat_Guru
And Goku knew his Kameha could destroy Kid Boo, who could survive a vaporizing planet blast, Gohan plowed through a planet destroying kameha with a smaller kameha of his own, and Cell stated that he had enough Chi to destroy a solar system....They [B]aren't
much compared to some of Superman's higher tier feats, but they aren't much to base Vegetto either, at all, and Vegetto has the power ups that multiply his power. [/B]
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And yet goku never proved he could do that,gohan never plowed through a planet destroyer,cell is a freaking idiot just like you im preety sure we have been over this before,and superman just has to get serious and he rips any dbz char to shreds.
What reason would a dbz character have to destroy a universe. Its on panel that they have the ability to destroy a damn solar system but thats not the point of the villians. Dbz villians wanted to rule everything.
Krillin solos this battle.
