Originally posted by Mr Master
"same reed?" humEverything was re-created anew, including Reed.
The UN didn't zap Reed's memory,
it simply re-created the same Reed,
along with everything else.
Originally posted by fangirl101seems like a reset. not a recreation. recreation would imply newness.
it had a blueprint to follow.
It became a blank VOID:
The blank VOID, becomes Reality again:
Originally posted by fangirl101it could be looked at as abraxas being removed from all times
instead of all times being removed from abraxas. [/B]
Originally posted by fangirl101food for thought.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Multiverse was ERASED!It became a blank VOID:
The blank VOID, becomes Reality again:
Please read the arc, before having a false speculative interpretation.
More like a fallacy to consider.
the multiverse was erased and yet the un survived from the old multiverse to put together a new multiverse? so something from the old multiverse survived? the un itself. reset.
Originally posted by fangirl101
the multiverse was erased and yet the un survived from the old multiverse to put together a new multiverse? so something from the old multiverse survived? the un itself. reset.
SS who was dead was brought back.
The old multiverse was erased, the one SS died in, and a new one was made, which is why SS was alive. And Abraxas was killed.
If it was just a reset how did these things happen?
Originally posted by fangirl101
the multiverse was erased and yet the un survived from the old multiverse to put together a new multiverse? so something from the old multiverse survived? the un itself. reset.
No. The UN is immune to the indirect affects of its own properties.
Here's the logic.
Galactus used the UN during the black celestial arc to destroy the universe. He fired the nullifier within the universe, so by your logic the nullifier should fall victim to its own power-it did not.
Morg fired the UN in Taa 2, Galactus' space station, and the ensuing blast consumed everyone within Taa 2. Again, going by the same logic, it should be destroyed-it was not.
Finally, the difference between reset as if Abraxas were not there, and reassemble to remove the effects of Abraxas:
Galactus was revived for the specific purpose of confronting Abraxas. 616 Galactus died due to his own machinery, not Abraxas. So if the UN simply reset everything to when Abraxas came, Galactus should stay dead. In fact, you can hinge everything on reset vs. recreate on Galactus himself:
1. Resetting would remove effects of everything Abraxas did. Abraxas didn't kill 616 Galactus...so resetting would leave 616 Galactus dead.
2. Since Galactus 616 remains dead....Abraxas comes back (again), and we start at #1 (again).
3. If you argue that the UN permanently erased Abraxas and reset the multiverse, then Galactus stays dead.
Problem with number 3: In the comics, Galactus remains after the nullifier recreates everything.
Galactus living=no abraxas.
Destroying the multiverse through ultimate nullification (Eternity was shown being shattered into pieces), and recreating it without Abraxas you've undone his extensive damage, as well as doing the most to ensure he doesn't come back. That's more than resetting, since resetting would simply leave the whole thing to transpire again.
A wrecking ball damages a building so thoroughly, the only way to have the building serviceable again is to tear it all down, and build it back up.
But when you build it back up, you don't "reset" the building designs. You redesign the building and fix the flaws, so if and when the wrecking ball comes around again, the same problem doesn't happen. You've recreated the building, which is inherently different from the previous version.
And no, the ultimate nullifier does not create anything. It only recreates what it destroys. So it did not create galactus, it recreated him. And Galactus was revived after Abraxas came around.
