Originally posted by fangirl101
darksied got broken by orion who was destined to do so by the source. after a battle with jimmy. not exactly a fresh match. that would be like mike tyson fighting ali, and winning, and then getting beaten by joe lewis. not exactly fair do you think?
After the fight with Jimmy, DS got a powerup from the New God's souls, but so did Orion, they were sharing the power.
No powerups for DS. Fighting in a city full of tech. Powered up Henshaw. No motherbox or Superman distracting Henshaw as he's fighting. Omega beams failed up close in their first fight against a weaker henshaw, needed a full power second blast at point blank to subdue him the second.
I'd say Henshaw stands a good chance of winning.
Hm. We're assuming Henshaw is bloodlusted, and has suspended his wish to die at the moment?
Darkseid can do practically anything he wants to with sheer force of will alone, provided there isn't a Kryptonian in his face. How is it Hank loses when Superman alone has bested Darkseid? Hank >>> Superman, he's withstood the Omega ____ that hurt even superman WHILE HE WAS USING HENSHAW AS A HUMAN SHIELD.
Dare I say the Omega beam he used to finally subdue henshaw was among the most powerful Darkseid has ever used. Anyhow, even if the omega effect could bust henshaw, it's proven a kryptonian can see them coming. Hank doesn't even need to dodge, he can just be in another body pronto. C'mere, rings.
my opinion on their stats? Henshaw speed 9, strength 9, durability 10, energy projection 10.
Darkseid speed 5, strength 10, durability 10, energy projection 10.
they pretty much stalemate each other at all ranges, but Hank has the terrain advantage here.
EDIT: oh I forgot how he PUNISHED superman h2h with the rings. Henshaw takes the cake all day.
Originally posted by fangirl101Ill answer this one he needed Olsen to beat Superman. He beat a former newsman with no experience really as a superhero and then engaged his son. He was indeed tired but he got his h eart ripped out as Orion stared int his eyes. This from a guy who lost to Kalibak and Firestorm. 😛
darksied got broken by orion who was destined to do so by the source. after a battle with jimmy. not exactly a fresh match. that would be like mike tyson fighting ali, and winning, and then getting beaten by joe lewis. not exactly fair do you think?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ill answer this one he needed Olsen to beat Superman. He beat a former newsman with no experience really as a superhero and then engaged his son.
Actually Olsen has had experience as a superhero, as for years he would gain and lose powers on the drop of a dime way before Countdown even started.
Originally posted by Galan007
DS ftw.
and in addition:
1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanv2104-21.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanv2104-22.jpg
Originally posted by AvlonDidnt they already do this before?
No powerups for DS. Fighting in a city full of tech. Powered up Henshaw. No motherbox or Superman distracting Henshaw as he's fighting. Omega beams failed up close in their first fight against a weaker henshaw, needed a full power second blast at point blank to subdue him the second.I'd say Henshaw stands a good chance of winning.
Where were Henshaw's multiple bodies? He already had a warning shot from darkseid before he was at max power. He reassembled himself into apokoliptian tech. Where was his speed? he kept on fighting Superman who wasnt anywhere near as powerful as they write him today and made no efforts to avoid Darkseid at all. With all that you say he is capable of he ignored Darkseid and was oneshotted when Darkseid regained his full power.
Ds wins easily.
Originally posted by -K-M-Ok but the powers that were in him were new to him and he is still very inexperienced when compared to Darkseid. Fair enough?
Actually Olsen has had experience as a superhero, as for years he would gain and lose powers on the drop of a dime way before Countdown even started.
Originally posted by -K-M-What comic is this from? He couldnt escape this?
Actually Olsen has had experience as a superhero, as for years he would gain and lose powers on the drop of a dime way before Countdown even started.and in addition:
1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanv2104-21.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanv2104-22.jpg
Haha. Thanos could indeed trap him with his energy containment field.
Great scan km. I like how he asks to be let free as he cant do a thing to get out of there. 🙂
Originally posted by -K-M-He was still inexperienced with them? Even if he did possess them at one point or another if you live as a human for years without your powers you get rusty. The point is he is much more inexperienced than Darkseid.
Actually those powers were exact copies of his Pre-crisis stories and that's why the writer chose those powers to showcase
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was still inexperienced with them? Even if he did possess them at one point or another if you live as a human for years without your powers you get rusty. The point is he is much more inexperienced than Darkseid.
Olsen isn't that old chronologically, maybe late 20's-ish. Indeed he doesn't have more experience then Darkseid [not many do], just pointing out for years Olsen was a superhero himself.
Originally posted by -K-M-Fine. He indeed has more experience than I previously thought but the way he was portrayed in countdown was indeed like a rookie with newfound powers to me. But yes he is far more inexperienced than Darkseid.
Olsen isn't that old chronologically, maybe late 20's-ish. Indeed he doesn't have more experience then Darkseid [not many do], just pointing out for years Olsen was a superhero himself.
Originally posted by jadervasonThe same could be said of Darkseid. really to say Henshaw can kill Darkseid when he actually made an attempt with Doomsday who did most of the killing and pillaging is ignorant.
Henshaw can conceivably beat anyone who is not Superman.Luthor has commented that Henshaw should have rightfully killed superman long ago but is too blinded by hatred to ever be effective against him.
