Re: Wonder Woman vs X-Men
Originally posted by Starscream M
Fight takes place inside the X-Men Danger Room with random environment settings.Wonder Woman
vs
Cyclops, Colossus, Storm, Cannonball, Wolverine, Rogue and Gambit
Speedblitz arguments get messy and that would be her only hope. This team creams her. Storm by herself could win. First off, we know that shrapnel/piercing objects like bullets can hurt WW. There's going to be tons of objects around for Storm to use as wind shrapnel. Keep in mind that Storm can punch straw through armor plate which can deflect bullets. Imagine what Storm can do with things like wood and concrete that's going to be lying around. Then Storm can also blind her with fog. This is a bad thing for Diana as it will definately slow her down and characters like Ororo and Cyclops don't have to get close to her to attack her. So WW is either snowblind or blinded by fog or blinding rain, being assaulted on all sides by wind shrapnel, assaulted by lightning and optic blasts while Rogue (if classic Rogue with power stealing abilities, etc) sneaks in to steal her powers and knock her unconscious with a touch.
Honestly, Storm could win this one by herself if we did not get into the messy speedblitz argument (which may not work for Ororo as Storm's powers act even on subconscious levels before her consciousness catches up to what she's doing. This added her ability to percieve the electrical impulses in the nervous system of her opponents and has the reaction speed to counter it in any fight could nullify Diana's speed blitz...) Putting the others on the team with Storm against Diana is a serious overkill.
Or, better yet, while Wonder Woman is blinded and being assaulted by sharpnel on all sides, Ororo hurls Logan with the force of winds beyond imagination (literally) at her with his claws outstretched from behind and impales her.
We saw Wonder Woman taken down quite quickly by some of those lame Injustice guys, including not being able to avoid being slashed in the back during the fight before being overwhelmed by some ice.
So the X-Men probably could take her, but not this X-Men unless Wolverine gets in his claws from behind (it is actually possible judging from the above fight) or Rogue gets hold of her or Storm's lightning. Nobody else is going to take her unless Iceman gets added.
Another one of those fights where someone like WW with her powers shouldn't lose, but based on things we see in the comics could lose.
The X-Men aren't as helpless as others may think.
Cannonball can extend his force field to protect everyone in his team making them all immune to speedblitz.
Cyclops can make his blast needle thin, making it deadlier then bullets to Wonder Woman especially when it travels at lightspeed which is faster that any bullets.
Storm can continually bombard her with lightning which is one of her weaknesses. Once she's hit, i believe she won't be able to move like what happend with Dr. Polaris.
Rogue is Rogue.
Originally posted by basilisk
We saw Wonder Woman taken down quite quickly by some of those lame Injustice guys, including not being able to avoid being slashed in the back during the fight before being overwhelmed by some ice.So the X-Men probably could take her, but not this X-Men unless Wolverine gets in his claws from behind (it is actually possible judging from the above fight) or Rogue gets hold of her or Storm's lightning. Nobody else is going to take her unless Iceman gets added.
Another one of those fights where someone like WW with her powers shouldn't lose, but based on things we see in the comics could lose.
lame injustice guys? do you know how powerful those guys are? dr. light? able to one shot superman? killer frost, who has been able to give green lantern and firestorm a hard time. who can shatter objects into thousands of pieces becuz she's so cold. cheetah who's speed has been amped by zoom, who also has magical claws that can cut thru most substances?
Re: Re: Wonder Woman vs X-Men
Originally posted by Rutog98all of this while wonder woman just stands there, since you know,she can't move at invisible speeds. and doesn't have an unbreake able force shield.
Speedblitz arguments get messy and that would be her only hope. This team creams her. Storm by herself could win. First off, we know that shrapnel/piercing objects like bullets can hurt WW. There's going to be tons of objects around for Storm to use as wind shrapnel. Keep in mind that Storm can punch straw through armor plate which can deflect bullets. Imagine what Storm can do with things like wood and concrete that's going to be lying around. Then Storm can also blind her with fog. This is a bad thing for Diana as it will definately slow her down and characters like Ororo and Cyclops don't have to get close to her to attack her. So WW is either snowblind or blinded by fog or blinding rain, being assaulted on all sides by wind shrapnel, assaulted by lightning and optic blasts while Rogue (if classic Rogue with power stealing abilities, etc) sneaks in to steal her powers and knock her unconscious with a touch.Honestly, Storm could win this one by herself if we did not get into the messy speedblitz argument (which may not work for Ororo as Storm's powers act even on subconscious levels before her consciousness catches up to what she's doing. This added her ability to percieve the electrical impulses in the nervous system of her opponents and has the reaction speed to counter it in any fight could nullify Diana's speed blitz...) Putting the others on the team with Storm against Diana is a serious overkill.
Or, better yet, while Wonder Woman is blinded and being assaulted by sharpnel on all sides, Ororo hurls Logan with the force of winds beyond imagination (literally) at her with his claws outstretched from behind and impales her.
Originally posted by fangirl101
the person with the highest I.Q. in the world happens to be a woman.
Not to sound sexist but thats incorrect. Marilyn sovants child IQ of 228 correlates to an adult IQ of 186 which is surpassed by Bobby fischer ( chess player) who has 187, Phillip Emeagwali( Nigerian mathematican) who has an adult IQ of 190 and then there is Chris langan who had an adult IQ of 210 😄
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Not to sound sexist but thats incorrect. Marilyn sovants child IQ of 228 correlates to an adult IQ of 186 which is surpassed by Bobby fischer ( chess player) who has 187, Phillip Emeagwali( Nigerian mathematican) who has an adult IQ of 190 and then there is Chris langan who had an adult IQ of 210 😄
Fangirl is partially correct, though. The highest IQ ever recorded WAS that of Savant. It may have been recorded in 1958, and every following test may have pegged her far lower, but it's still, officially, the highest IQ ever recorded.
And, Kim Ung Yong has a 210 IQ; Chris Langan's verified IQ is 195, if I recall correctly.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Haven't studies shown IQ testing to be inaccurate measurements of intelligence?
Indeed.
They're especially inaccurate the further you get away from the median scores - the 'high scorers' on these tests could vary twenty points just taking the tests a few days apart.
However, I assume that Fangirl's claim of a woman being the smartest person in the world was related to Savant having the highest IQ ever recorded, seeing as IQ is the only real quantitative measure of intelligence we have - even if it's a horribly inaccurate one.
Originally posted by Soljer
Indeed.They're especially inaccurate the further you get away from the median scores - the 'high scorers' on these tests could vary twenty points just taking the tests a few days apart.
Interesting
Originally posted by Soljer
However, I assume that Fangirl's claim of a woman being the smartest person in the world was related to Savant having the highest IQ ever recorded, seeing as IQ is the only real quantitative measure of intelligence we have - even if it's a horribly inaccurate one. [/B]
I see your, or more specifically her point. However, one should never use an inaccurate testing method simply because it is the only one available. If the assessment is flawed, then the quantative proof is ultimately incorrect. Thus, making the argument of "the smartest person in the world being a woman" invalid.
Not that I care, I really just wanted to know for certain that IQ testing is indeed, inaccurate. Which you confirmed for me, thanx. 😄
WW did use her senses of changing air pressure against Flash.
http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ww212blindvsjla30pe.jpg
Storm's enviromental senses>>>>>>WW.
Wonderwoman also had some nerve damage of her middle ear so she couldn't fly. What's that all about?
If so then a clap of thunder or a pressure differential behind the eardrum...
Hmmmmmm?