Naruto: no good elemental jutsu?

Originally posted by Q99
And then it completes it, and I come back.

Since it won't fall apart immediately, it has plenty of time to complete a summon.

Not immediately sure. But by the time you knock me unconscious you're quite far away, your clone starts to dissipate, and it will fall apart.

Originally posted by Q99
You are an S-class ninja. I think eliminating you might be worth the effort 🙂

My, my, I must say I'm flattered.

Originally posted by Q99
Ah, so they'll be completely unexpecting of the physical boost.

That'll affect the flame armor, but that should leave them with their guards plenty down... nice, I wonder just how many of them I can kill?

Sacrificing yourself, Tuko, and several comrades just to try and capture lil old me is quite a price to pay ^^

Except Tukos had seen you use said pills and informed them that you are likely to be stronger than normal when you arrive.

You're talking about creatures that are descendants from the Kyuubi that share its chakra to a degree. Including a healing factor and the ability to wear chakra cloaks. The only bargaining chip you have is me and I'm afraid one of the foxes has torn me from your grasp.

You're my prisoner.

* Didn't I take you both out with Chibaku Tensei?

Ergo, the rest of the battle was just a figment of your imaginations, and right now, you are being prodded for intel by my sensor ninja. awesome

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

Would be cool. I'd do it myself but I'm not sure how. So if you or QT want to handle it, go ahead.

Actually, could we get the a mod to just rename this thread and make it a battlezone thread? We've already kinda broke it in after all. 😛

Coming up with some good ideas for it right now actually. 😛

First thing you have to do is to establish chakra limits, and jutsu chakra usage. 😛

Plus, no Jinchurikii, except for us three of course. I call dibs on the Nine-Tails. 313 Along with the MS and Kamui awesome

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
* Didn't I take you both out with Chibaku Tensei?

Ergo, the rest of the battle was just a figment of your imaginations, and right now, you are being prodded for intel by my sensor ninja. awesome

First thing you have to do is to establish chakra limits, and jutsu chakra usage. 😛

Plus, no Jinchurikii, except for us three of course. I call dibs on the Nine-Tails. 313 Along with the MS and Kamui awesome

Nahhhhh bro.

Well I sent a PM about it and am waiting a response before we get anything set in stone.

Fair enough. I get Juubi then. Along with Rinnegan. 131

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

Not immediately sure. But by the time you knock me unconscious you're quite far away, your clone starts to dissipate, and it will fall apart.

I think you're severely overestimating the times involved here and just how fast I was traveling. By the time I left it's side until I hit you was a matter of moments. I don't think I actually left clone range until the summoning itself either.

Except Tukos had seen you use said pills and informed them that you are likely to be stronger than normal when you arrive.

Hah, so they set this all up in four seconds? Gathered all the required foxes to a specific location, set up seals, and delivered detailed info in up-to-the-moment capabilities?

Quite frankly, I don't believe you 🙂

*Poofs away as the clone summons me out*

Oh, and Tuko had popped out before I popped the pills.

Originally posted by Q99
I think you're severely overestimating the times involved here and just how fast I was traveling. By the time I left it's side until I hit you was a matter of moments. I don't think I actually left clone range until the summoning itself either.

I think you're severely overestimating your clones speed and the speed of my Reverse Kuchiyose. I started it before you had arrived at me and you made contact only at the last moment before it came to pass. You only actually injured me during the time when we were traveling to the burrow. By this time we were far away from the battlefield and it's proven that your clone should become unstable the farther it is from you.

Originally posted by Q99
Hah, so they set this all up in four seconds? Gathered all the required foxes to a specific location, set up seals, and delivered detailed info in up-to-the-moment capabilities?

Quite frankly, I don't believe you 🙂

*Poofs away as the clone summons me out*

Oh, and Tuko had popped out before I popped the pills.

They had quite a few minutes to sit this up. This all occured when I threw Tukos off the temple. And yes, he did see you pop a pill. Not the amount you did in total.

But I'll allow you to think you weren't taken prisoner. I have a battlezone thread to think about. Care to join me?

Edit: Now this is why we need limits. So shit like this doesn't leave the ending ambiguious and stupid. haermm

Sorry for late reply. I'm in this fight as well. Aura will let you know it's well worth having me in and I'm sure Q99 has a bone to pick with me for interrupting her last fight.

Btw the names Aquilla...Uchiha.

We... pretty much ignored all interruptions, honestly ^^

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

They had quite a few minutes to sit this up. This all occured when I threw Tukos off the temple. And yes, he did see you pop a pill. Not the amount you did in total.

Yea, that one was just a generic soldier pill, not a pair of special-formula pills.

But I'll allow you to think you weren't taken prisoner. I have a battlezone thread to think about. Care to join me?

That's an idea 🙂

Originally posted by Q99
We... pretty much ignored all interruptions, honestly ^^

That's an idea 🙂

Speak for yourself, an interruption was what I was planning on. And not the DP kind.

So.....what we need is a decision about chakra limits and exactly what kind of moves cost more chakra than others. I was thinking in percentages. Like this.

Aura:100% Chakra
Q99:100% Chakra

I use chidori and you block with a water shield.

Aura:90%
Q99:96%

Then again that's just an example. I'm not too great at math and judging these things. ^^;

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Nahhhhh bro.

Well I sent a PM about it and am waiting a response before we get anything set in stone.

Fair enough. I get Juubi then. Along with Rinnegan. 131

Impossible. Juubi no longer exists, and the only Rinnegan is with me. awesome

None of this is canon anyway so it's first come first serve. So ha ha. 313

Nay, battlezone uses established canon, so ha ha ha. 131

Otherwise, I simply state that the Jubi and Rinnegan do not exist in our canon. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nay, battlezone uses established canon, so ha ha ha. 131

Otherwise, I simply state that the Jubi and Rinnegan do not exist in our canon. 😛

Them I'm afraid you can't have the Kyuubi or sharingan. So ha ha ha ha.313

Then I simply state that you do not exist in our canon.

/mind****.

I've ripped out the Kyuubi from Naruto, and I already possess a Sharingan. 131

Or rather, I've genjutsu'd you and the rest of the world into believing I do not exist in our canon...among other things vin

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I've ripped out the Kyuubi from Naruto, and I already possess a Sharingan. 131

Or rather, I've genjutsu'd you and the rest of the world into believing I do not exist in our canon...among other things vin

I've stolen the Hachibi and the 7 others and I already have a Rinnegan. 313

Note to self: BAN ALL GENJUTSU IN BATTLEZONE.

Kyuubi & Kamui > Hachibi + 7 other Bijuu + Rinn'egan. You know this to be true 131

Agreed. Seriously. We can't delve into illusions in such a medium.

I think 'direct attack' genjutsu is fine. That is, Kabuto's sleep genjutsu is ok, Tsukiyomi used to torture is ok, frog song is ok, susano'o's genjutsu sword is ok, Kurenai's "you are imprisoned in wood and I'mma stab you," is ok. Oh, and the bright flash part of C's genjutsu.

Just nothing illusional in the sense of "you need to guess what's real and what's not."

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Kyuubi & Kamui > Hachibi + 7 other Bijuu + Rinn'egan. You know this to be true 131

Agreed. Seriously. We can't delve into illusions in such a medium.

Ha, yeah right. Enjoy it when the Kyuubi gets taken by someone else. It always does.

Originally posted by Q99
I think 'direct attack' genjutsu is fine. That is, Kabuto's sleep genjutsu is ok, Tsukiyomi used to torture is ok, frog song is ok, susano'o's genjutsu sword is ok, Kurenai's "you are imprisoned in wood and I'mma stab you," is ok. Oh, and the bright flash part of C's genjutsu.

Just nothing illusional in the sense of "you need to guess what's real and what's not."

In my experience, when someone uses genjutsu, they use it in a "This entire fight has been a genjutsu from the start and now it's time to kill you since you've used so much chakra" way. Needless to say this is the kind that needs banning.

Though yeah, I suppose some are okay.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

In my experience, when someone uses genjutsu, they use it in a "This entire fight has been a genjutsu from the start and now it's time to kill you since you've used so much chakra" way. Needless to say this is the kind that needs banning.

Yea, that'd be right out.

Also, I'd think that if you only think you're doing jutsu in the genjutsu, you wouldn't actually be using any chakra... maybe get mentally tired, but generally when in a genjutsu you're just standing there, you aren't *really* throwing rasengans and what have you.

Well when Naruto was in Itachi's genjutsu he really did run up and use rasengan.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, that'd be right out.

Also, I'd think that if you only think you're doing jutsu in the genjutsu, you wouldn't actually be using any chakra... maybe get mentally tired, but generally when in a genjutsu you're just standing there, you aren't *really* throwing rasengans and what have you.

Yeah, if the genjutsu involves jutsu usage within a genjutsu 'world', chakra shouldn't be used up for each jutsu.

However, if it's a genjutsu whereby the caster appears to be somewhere, but really isn't (i.e. only sight is affected), jutsu usage would function as normal, except the opponent would basically be trying to hit thin air instead of the opponent.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Ha, yeah right. Enjoy it when the Kyuubi gets taken by someone else. It always does.

I'm gonna revive the Jubi before that happens. Which is why I've stolen the other beasts from under your nose. 😛

Originally posted by Q99
I think 'direct attack' genjutsu is fine. That is, Kabuto's sleep genjutsu is ok, Tsukiyomi used to torture is ok, frog song is ok, susano'o's genjutsu sword is ok, Kurenai's "you are imprisoned in wood and I'mma stab you," is ok. Oh, and the bright flash part of C's genjutsu.

Just nothing illusional in the sense of "you need to guess what's real and what's not."

C's Genjutsu still causes one to see something that isn't real, which is used to get an attack in.

Tsukuyomi should IMO, not be allowed, since it's a MS jutsu, and incredibly broken, even if used for torture only. That, or we use Sasuke's version.

Kurenai's should be fine, as should other 'binding' type genjutsu. Little iffy on Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Singing, since it all but guarantees a victory if successful, but takes quite some prep.