Who Could have played the joker better ?

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Who Could have played the joker better ?

Who do you think could have played the joker better than jack Nicholson, Pesonally i didn't like his performance but everybody has opinions

in Tim Burton's Batman universe?? Prolly Jeffrey Jones ... aka Principal Ed Rooney from Ferris Bueller's Day Off .. back in the day he had a creepiness about him (that wasn't because he was a pedophile)

Gary Oldman probably could have taken that role and ran with it HARDCORE. But tons could have done it better than Jack...unless we're talking Jack from the late '60s when he actually gave a damn about acting.

I don't think anyone could have played that role like Jack myself. I think he did an excellent job.

Jack Nicolson did it rather well I thought, he's good at playing a scary crazy guy, I think his role in the shining helped him get the role...played a scary crazy guy in that and did it really well

I don't know, Jack has that certain charm even when he is acting crazy, the same charm readers get from the Joker in the comics, of course we all know that the Joker is demented but we have a liking for him, and i when reading stories involving him practically every Batman fan wants to see what he's up to, Jack can play nasty but he still carries that same charm, because of that i think he did rather well...i don't really think that there was anyone else (at the time) who could have pulled it off, other then Jack.

well i heard jack Nicholson done such a great job as a joker he got paid extra

check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCOl9v0b0zM

I never liked him i don't no what it was may be it was just the fact that i didn't like the movie i thought that tim curry could have done it better may be robert england some one like that

I think Jack's acting capabilities are best displayed in 'Anger Management' myself...No one could have played that role as well he did...Truly SPECTACULAR. I mean, that's the way the character is MEANT to be played! BRILLIANT.

I have three main problems with Jack`s performance as The Joker.

1. Too big of a name for the role- His casting meant huge number of people were going to pour into cinemas just to see the movie thats all fine and well. But I feel he was too big a name for the role and people see him as a big legend that they wanted to preserve this because of what they think of "Jack" outside of his acting. And if you don`t believe me all you have to do is watch the extras for on the Batman DVD when doing the makeup for Jack they said they wanted to preserve as much as Jack as possible now in my exprince as a Drama student you are supposed to sink into a role that you almost become unregoniseble thats like acting 101. Ledger did this perfectly but unforuntnly the people working on the movie did not see it this way because of Jack`s name and they wanted to preserve that which was just wrong.

2. Joker in the comics is Batman`s arch nemesis and in the movie it did not feel like that at all and they had to dramatically change the source material to make it this way which was just wrong imo. Now from what I have seen from Ledger he seems more of the joker from the comics he seems to have really caused Batman troubles and looks like he will become Batman`s arch nemesis in the movie unfourtnaly the way Jack`s Joker was written he did not come across as the arch nemesis that has caused batman so much pain like in the comics.

3. Jack did get the sick twisted humor of the Joker down to a t in this movie but from interviews with Burton I think thats all he understood of the Joker character this dark sick twisted sense of humor and Jack`s joker did not come across as threatening really.

In conclusion I don`t think Jack`s Joker was all that bad he had some pretty good moments in the movie but it was not consistent with the comic book Joker which I think Ledger has already played so successfully from what I have seen. I think if Jack played Joker like he played his role in The Shinning he would have been a much better and scarier Joker+ if he was written better without him killing Batman`s parents angle and just hurt Batman in a way or really caused Gotham City chaos then he would have been better. Jack is not a bad actor imo it was just how The Joker was written and how he performed him left much to be desired imo and really overrated.

What do you mean who could have played the Joker better?

We haven't even seen the movie, and from what I've seen, he played the Joker pretty well.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
What do you mean who could have played the Joker better?

We haven't even seen the movie, and from what I've seen, he played the Joker pretty well.

..uh...you gotta read more than just the thread title friend.

Jack is one of my fave actors, he was absolutely amazing in The Shining, One flew over the cuckoo's nest and As good as it gets😄

Have any of you seen the youtube/pirated footage of the I am Legend footage? Well, the same idiots that laugh when the Joker kills someone or strikes them as clever are the same idiots laughing because they think they know when the Joker would laugh. It's the predictability of some kid scribbling in his diary about how fun crime is. Well, it's secondary to the motivations of a character like the Joker. Basically, if you think you should laugh at what you think is supposedly the punchline, you are laughingat yourself. The true punchline can only be known by the person telling the joke; not by the person that interprets the joke.

Tim Curry in his prime would have made a great joker 🙂

Willem Dafoe

Originally posted by Mr Shindiggery
I have three main problems with Jack`s performance as The Joker.

1. Too big of a name for the role- His casting meant huge number of people were going to pour into cinemas just to see the movie thats all fine and well. But I feel he was too big a name for the role and people see him as a big legend that they wanted to preserve this because of what they think of "Jack" outside of his acting. And if you don`t believe me all you have to do is watch the extras for on the Batman DVD when doing the makeup for Jack they said they wanted to preserve as much as Jack as possible now in my exprince as a Drama student you are supposed to sink into a role that you almost become unregoniseble thats like acting 101. Ledger did this perfectly but unforuntnly the people working on the movie did not see it this way because of Jack`s name and they wanted to preserve that which was just wrong.

2. Joker in the comics is Batman`s arch nemesis and in the movie it did not feel like that at all and they had to dramatically change the source material to make it this way which was just wrong imo. Now from what I have seen from Ledger he seems more of the joker from the comics he seems to have really caused Batman troubles and looks like he will become Batman`s arch nemesis in the movie unfourtnaly the way Jack`s Joker was written he did not come across as the arch nemesis that has caused batman so much pain like in the comics.

3. Jack did get the sick twisted humor of the Joker down to a t in this movie but from interviews with Burton I think thats all he understood of the Joker character this dark sick twisted sense of humor and Jack`s joker did not come across as threatening really.

In conclusion I don`t think Jack`s Joker was all that bad he had some pretty good moments in the movie but it was not consistent with the comic book Joker which I think Ledger has already played so successfully from what I have seen. I think if Jack played Joker like he played his role in The Shinning he would have been a much better and scarier Joker+ if he was written better without him killing Batman`s parents angle and just hurt Batman in a way or really caused Gotham City chaos then he would have been better. Jack is not a bad actor imo it was just how The Joker was written and how he performed him left much to be desired imo and really overrated.

very good well thought out post. 👆 Yeah I think william defoe would have been a better choice as well.Also-and I have heard this mentioned as well from other batman fans-they should have had the actors in these batman movies-Jack Nicholson and Jim Carrey,but they should have turned them around and had them swap roles with Jim Carrey as The Joker and Nicholson as The Riddler.Nicholson was better suited with his build that he has for the role of The Riddler,and carrey had the perfect build for the Joker.Plus Carrey constant non stop laughter would have been perfect for the joker,Nicholson couldnt laugh non stop like the joker does and like carrey did as the riddler,so thats another reason he would have been better suited for the role of the riddler.

Originally posted by Il.Mozalini
..uh...you gotta read more than just the thread title friend.

true.thats what I was about to say-was wtf? the movie hasnt even come out yet.thinking it was about Heath Ledger as the joker. good thing unlike him,I decided to read the thread. 😄

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Willem Dafoe

Nuff said...

Originally posted by Mr Parker
laugh non stop like the joker does

thank you for proving my point.