Evangel's Slugfest Amalgam Battle Royal

Just to keep things in perspective, this fight brings powers back into play that were banned or so expensive as to be impossible to obtain in the tourney....unless you're stipulating that the rules from the tourney still apply. But since none were specified, I'm assuming this would be the characters at their peak, as per KMC standard rules.

Strange and Fate benefit the most from this. Speed kills, imo, and I actually think a no-stipulations Strange + speed force would spell doom for pretty much everyone on that list.

what about trick's team pillaging of the time stream?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what about trick's team pillaging of the time stream?

Even without the illegality of it, his plan was a stretch for such characters.

Beyond that, Strange and Fate have abilities over time and space to an extent that they could effectively end Metron/Wave's quest very quickly, and certainly before they accomplished anything of value....even if it meant following them around the universe and timestream. And once the quest fails, Metron's fairly useless. Waverider's a beast, but so is Strange with the speed force, or Fate with Hulk's strength.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Just to keep things in perspective, this fight brings powers back into play that were banned or so expensive as to be impossible to obtain in the tourney....unless you're stipulating that the rules from the tourney still apply. But since none were specified, I'm assuming this would be the characters at their peak, as per KMC standard rules.

Strange and Fate benefit the most from this. Speed kills, imo, and I actually think a no-stipulations Strange + speed force would spell doom for pretty much everyone on that list.

or you could just do the army thing again.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
or you could just do the army thing again.

Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK Digi, now that I think about it with the power stipulations from the tourney removed my guy would be able to amp his powers to unreal levels and with access to Thor, the Scarlet Witch, Dr. Druid, Brother Voodoo, and Iron Fist's abilities he'd have a considerable defense against magic.

Fair enough, though there's still only 1 of your character, and Strange with teh speed force is still >> in magic than anything Adaptoid could muster. Even with similar speed, Strange's magic > any of that, and he'd be working far quicker than Adaptoid could work, so there's an even bigger advantage.

Also, some of that wouldn't be as potent as the original, like how he couldn't copy all of Mjolnir's abilities, which is mainly where Thor's magic defenses lie.

Not saying it's a stomp. I just that think that once you remove bans from powers, Dr. Flash becomes too much to handle for any team.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Even without the illegality of it, his plan was a stretch for such characters.

Beyond that, Strange and Fate have abilities over time and space to an extent that they could effectively end Metron/Wave's quest very quickly, and certainly before they accomplished anything of value....even if it meant following them around the universe and timestream. And once the quest fails, Metron's fairly useless. Waverider's a beast, but so is Strange with the speed force, or Fate with Hulk's strength.

No, the plan was doable. Extant proved that. And you greatly underestimate the Mobius Chair and Waverider. Catching even 1 would be difficult, but Waverider's temporal vision and the chair's ease of travel, means I could easily get at least one piece of the gog. Once I get one, you can't stop me.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No, the plan was doable. Extant proved that. And you greatly underestimate the Mobius Chair and Waverider. Catching even 1 would be difficult, but Waverider's temporal vision and the chair's ease of travel, means I could easily get at least one piece of the gog. Once I get one, you can't stop me.

See, but you're assuming that's the first avenue the character would go for. In the tourney, it was using your intellect and ideas. In this thread, under the stipulations, it isn't....it's just the characters.

In theory, any character capable of temporal and dimensional travel (Strange among them) could put together the 'gog or some other artifact (IG, UN, etc.), Strange among them. And yet yours is the only character capable of doing it, while the others can't or wouldn't?! The simple and obvious answer is that none of them would in a fight.

Also, total time stops and dimensional warps from Strange are easily on par with Metron, to say nothing of the power difference between the two amalgams.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
See, but you're assuming that's the first avenue the character would go for. In the tourney, it was using your intellect and ideas. In this thread, under the stipulations, it isn't....it's just the characters.

In theory, any character capable of temporal and dimensional travel (Strange among them) could put together the 'gog or some other artifact (IG, UN, etc.), Strange among them. And yet yours is the only character capable of doing it, while the others can't or wouldn't?! The simple and obvious answer is that none of them would in a fight.

Also, total time stops and dimensional warps from Strange are easily on par with Metron, to say nothing of the power difference between the two amalgams.

the difference, is that Metron HAD the full gog for an extended period of time. He presumably had it with him until JLA1M, whereupon, he confered it upon Hourman 1M, his successor.

You're going to have to prove Strange's magic>New God technology, and Waverider's temporal mastery. Which even LP would have trouble doing.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
the difference, is that Metron HAD the full gog for an extended period of time. He presumably had it with him until JLA1M, whereupon, he confered it upon Hourman 1M, his successor.

You're going to have to prove Strange's magic>New God technology, and Waverider's temporal mastery. Which even LP would have trouble doing.

No he isn't. He needn't do anything of the sort. Apparently you missed the entire point of his post.

Originally posted by Soljer
No he isn't. He needn't do anything of the sort. Apparently you missed the entire point of his post.

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Beyond that, like I said more than a few teams could do it if we use that kind of absurd logic. I remember goober saying something to the effect of "Ok, if this ends up going through, I'll forfeit and see you in the finals with the Infinity Gauntlet." It would be a moronic arms race, none of which is in character for any of these people. It would be like arguing that Thanos leaves the battlefield, builds the IG, and returns....in every thread he's in. It just doesn't make sense.

yeah, digi and i both had the ig on our minds and digi and i both wanted to draft adam warlock with two additional gems(though it would go over the cost by 1 measly point).

beyond that gathering the rest was child's play, but that is against the rules.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
yeah, digi and i both had the ig on our minds and digi and i both wanted to draft adam warlock with two additional gems(though it would go over the cost by 1 measly point).

beyond that gathering the rest was child's play, but that is against the rules.

We did? Oh, now I remember.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Fair enough, though there's still only 1 of your character, and Strange with teh speed force is still >> in magic than anything Adaptoid could muster. Even with similar speed, Strange's magic > any of that, and he'd be working far quicker than Adaptoid could work, so there's an even bigger advantage.

Also, some of that wouldn't be as potent as the original, like how he couldn't copy all of Mjolnir's abilities, which is mainly where Thor's magic defenses lie.

Not saying it's a stomp. I just that think that once you remove bans from powers, Dr. Flash becomes too much to handle for any team.