Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, that depends on the distance they start apart, and even then Gambit is fast enough to react and survive in close combat long enough to use his cards
Elektra moved so fast that she disarmed Punisher while he was staring at her without him even noticing. Seriously, she walks all over the Cajun... and would even if she couldn't read his mind.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Elektra moved so fast that she disarmed Punisher while he was staring at her without him even noticing. Seriously, she walks all over the Cajun... and would even if she couldn't read his mind.
I'm not really seeing how speedblitzing Punisher is at all proof that she could speedblitz Gambit before he could react.
Originally posted by Mindset
I'm not really seeing how speedblitzing Punisher is at all proof that she could speedblitz Gambit before he could react.
She didn't speedblitz punisher - she removed an object off of him without him noticing. This is a combination of speed and skill that ninjas are known to master. It's not just pure speed though - if Superman ripped something out of your hands, you would surely notice unless he developed the skill to pull it out without realizing. Slight of hand, ninja "magic" etc...this is not a real feat of speed at all.
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
She didn't speedblitz punisher - she removed an object off of him without him noticing. This is a combination of speed and skill that ninjas are known to master. It's not just pure speed though - if Superman ripped something out of your hands, you would surely notice unless he developed the skill to pull it out without realizing. Slight of hand, ninja "magic" etc...this is not a real feat of speed at all.
And gambit is no where near Elektra in sheer speed.
With two decks and a decent distance apart, Gambit can certainly put up at least a little bit of a fight. Though I rather think that he'll see that he blew Elektra up in the fight and wake up in his bed a day later. Later the X-men will explain to him that he stopped mid-fight like a zombie, and Elektra nerve-pinched him unconscious...
Originally posted by jinzin
And gambit is no where near Elektra in sheer speed.With two decks and a decent distance apart, Gambit can certainly put up at least a little bit of a fight. Though I rather think that he'll see that he blew Elektra up in the fight and wake up in his bed a day later. Later the X-men will explain to him that he stopped mid-fight like a zombie, and Elektra nerve-pinched him unconscious...
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Agreed. Punisher is nowhere near Gambit in speed.
Punisher might not be anywhere near Gambit's agility and movement speed but his reaction time and combat speed are EASILY on par with Gambit if not superior.
Eletkra is faster then Gambit. She is more skilled then Gambit. She can read his thoughts and will know everything Gambit is about to do before he does it. She can mess with his mind and trap him in a ninja illusion and take him out while he is in a day dream. Elekra wins easily.
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
She didn't speedblitz punisher - she removed an object off of him without him noticing. This is a combination of speed and skill that ninjas are known to master. It's not just pure speed though - if Superman ripped something out of your hands, you would surely notice unless he developed the skill to pull it out without realizing. Slight of hand, ninja "magic" etc...this is not a real feat of speed at all.
... what?
Punisher was standing in front of her and she moved so fast he didn't even notice. Slight of hand is about distraction, deception and subtlety, moving so fast you statch a gun out of the hands of someone who is staring right at you is speed not slight of hand... it's speed.
And regarding the nonsensical Superman comment: do you think Punisher saw Elektra had his gun an was like "Well gosh, is that my gun?" Nope, he noticed he didn't have his gun anymore because he wasn't holding it (humans have this sense known as touch)... Elektra was just much faster then Punisher could think/react and she was holding his gun before he realised that anything had happened.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Punisher might not be anywhere near Gambit's agility and movement speed but his reaction time and combat speed are EASILY on par with Gambit if not superior.Eletkra is faster then Gambit. She is more skilled then Gambit. She can read his thoughts and will know everything Gambit is about to do before he does it. She can mess with his mind and trap him in a ninja illusion and take him out while he is in a day dream. Elekra wins easily.
Yea, Punisher's speed in no way is on the level of Gambit in any area and definitely not higher. Gambit has peak human physical attributes, except strength.
He also has a level of immunity to tp.
Originally posted by jinzin
When it comes to speed, yes her feats are grossly superhuman.
Ok, I can accept that. But her bios do state she is peak human, but as we know, bios can be meh at best.
But, I still want to wait to hear Daredevil1's veiw of ekektra, he seems to know alot about her lower showings.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The only possible excuse for thinking that Gambit wins this, would be that your [b]only experience with Elektra is from reading Daredevil v1... and if that is the case, why even post in this thread? [/B]
Even THEN that wouldn't make sense as she was outpacing DD and Bullseye in both of their first fights. 😬
Maybe it's if their only knowledge comes from DD covers or something. 😬
