Which beings could pull of the feats of DOV spectre?

Originally posted by fangirl101

no. rebuilding something means that.

recreating something means it was totally gone
and you recreated it from the void of nothing.

To "re-create" is to work with (re-arrange) what is there,
to "create" is to make something from the void of nothing.

I think you better research you dictionary homie.
(from Webster's)

Re-create:

"create again ... reproduce; reenact"

Create

"bring (something) into existence"

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Wanda re-created the entire Omniverse. 🙂

You are just using another random word to define what is already defined, let me search the scans of Paradise X where the same concept is explained in Marvel.

Originally posted by Mindset
And what feats does Phantom Stranger have?

In SevenSoldiers he remembered what kind of bread Zattana's friend had asked him to buy several years previously.

He has nearly universal respect/reverence from magic types in the DCU.

Off the top of my head, however, I can't think of anything impressive he's done on his own.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually you're wrong once again.

To "re-create" is to work with (re-arrange) what is there,
to "create" is to make something from the void of nothing.

I think you better research you dictionary homie.
(from Webster's)

[B]Re-create:

"create again ... reproduce; reenact"

Create

"bring (something) into existence"

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Wanda re-created the entire Omniverse. 🙂 [/B]

i am not your freind. wanda did not recreate anything. she took what was broken and fixed it. and recreate can mean to redo. if an artists painting is destroyed. he can recreate the exact same image again from scratch. thus recreating the image itself on a new canvas. wanda did nothing of the sort. she took something broken and superglued it back together with some changes.

Originally posted by fangirl101
the heart of the u is an artifact designed to be operated by the users will. the ps tapped the power of the spectre and wielded it.

The HOTU is energy. Spectre's power is energy. I don't see the difference.

And again when did this happen?

Originally posted by Mindset
The HOTU is energy. Spectre's power is energy. I don't see the difference.

And again when did this happen?

The heart of the U was an artifact that was placed there by the great manipulator for thanos to wield. not quite the same thing. the PS just took the spectre's comatose power and wielded it. it wasn't just like anyone could do that. COIE

Originally posted by fangirl101
LT cannot be included in the list.

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The Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp (the Chaos Wave)

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Meggan (attuned to the Timestream) saw Wanda's Wave of power coming:

"It is the End ... of All that is ... of All that will ever be"

..................................................................................................

The Wave passes through:

"I was hoping, praying with all my heart ... that is was just a bad dream"

..................................................................................................

"In the fullest sense of the word, we live totally ordered lives.
Time & Space, our every perception of Reality,
is defined, governed, by what we call natural laws.
They provide the foundation & structure of our very existence.

Now, imagine them totally stripped away.

No more boundaries,
what quantum physicists like to call Branes, between Dimensions"

"No coherence to Causality.
Only Primal Chaos,
beyond the comprehension of any sentience
no matter how grandiose its opinion of itself

And this is just the beginning"

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Roma's Starlight Citadel (an Omniversal nexus) crashes also,
and since it is an access point to All Realities:

"from this venue,
the Guardian of Reality can view events on[i] EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE"

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We witness Wanda's power crashing All Realities in the Omniverse into one:

"At the Center point of Creation is the Starlight Citadel of Brian's ultimate boss,
Roma, the Celestial Guardian.
Her power is all that her title implies and more.
Doesn't matter ... doesn't save her.

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Finally all the UniverseS accessible through the Starlight Citadel are warped together:

"Her great Hall would fit entire Planets, with room to spare.
But when her Citadel falls,
that impossible vast space is suddenly crowded worse than rush hour ...
with an inconceivable variety and number of species,
as ALL the Dimensions there are suddenly crash together into one."
Nothing makes sense anymore, especially not who's supposed to be dead[/i]. (MJJ)

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As we can SEE!!!

The Chaos Wave resurrected Mad Jim Jaspers!

..................................................................................................

The Chaos Wave is literally Wanda's power:

..................................................................................................

PROOF!!! (or rather official Marvel Handbook confirmation)

In THREE separate Bios

1.

"During the Scarlet Witch's 'House of M' Reality Warp,
Jaspers Reformed alive merged with the Fury"

2.

"Mad Jim Jaspers has also returned,
brought back to life by the Scarlet Witch's recent Reality Warp"

3. Wanda even gave Layla the power to "Perceive Divergent Realities" with her Chaos Wave:

"Layla showed Cage glimpses of his life prior to the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp"

Originally posted by Mr Master
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The [B]Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp (the Chaos Wave)

==============================================

Meggan (attuned to the Timestream) saw Wanda's Wave of power coming:

"It is the End ... of All that is ... of All that will ever be"

..................................................................................................

The Wave passes through:

"I was hoping, praying with all my heart ... that is was just a bad dream"

..................................................................................................

"In the fullest sense of the word, we live totally ordered lives.
Time & Space, our every perception of Reality,
is defined, governed, by what we call natural laws.
They provide the foundation & structure of our very existence.

Now, imagine them totally stripped away.

No more boundaries,
what quantum physicists like to call Branes, between Dimensions"

"No coherence to Causality.
Only Primal Chaos,
beyond the comprehension of any sentience
no matter how grandiose its opinion of itself

And this is just the beginning"

..................................................................................................

Roma's Starlight Citadel (an Omniversal nexus) crashes also,
and since it is an access point to All Realities:

"from this venue,
the Guardian of Reality can view events on[i] EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE"

..................................................................................................

..................................................................................................

We witness Wanda's power crashing All Realities in the Omniverse into one:

"At the Center point of Creation is the Starlight Citadel of Brian's ultimate boss,
Roma, the Celestial Guardian.
Her power is all that her title implies and more.
Doesn't matter ... doesn't save her.

..................................................................................................

Finally all the UniverseS accessible through the Starlight Citadel are warped together:

"Her great Hall would fit entire Planets, with room to spare.
But when her Citadel falls,
that impossible vast space is suddenly crowded worse than rush hour ...
with an inconceivable variety and number of species,
as ALL the Dimensions there are suddenly crash together into one."
Nothing makes sense anymore, especially not who's supposed to be dead[/i]. (MJJ)

==============================================

As we can SEE!!!

The Chaos Wave resurrected Mad Jim Jaspers!

..................................................................................................

The Chaos Wave is literally Wanda's power:

..................................................................................................

PROOF!!! (or rather official Marvel Handbook confirmation)

In THREE separate Bios

1.

"During the Scarlet Witch's 'House of M' Reality Warp,
Jaspers Reformed alive merged with the Fury"

2.

"Mad Jim Jaspers has also returned,
brought back to life by the Scarlet Witch's recent Reality Warp"

3. Wanda even gave Layla the power to "Perceive Divergent Realities" with her Chaos Wave:

"Layla showed Cage glimpses of his life prior to the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp" [/B]

awave that someone saw coming. meaning it was moving. it didn't destroy anything in one fell swoop. as a matter of fact, it left pieces behind for her to reassemble. that will be all. had she destroyed everything all at once, it would have been all at once and she didn't recreate it all at once. and she certainly didn't beat any one on the lvl of say the lt.

Neither did DOV Spectre.

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Wanda warped the Omniverse!

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With the line "No More mutants",

Wanda managed to shift Reality "causing cracks across ALL Realities."

Allowing the Shadow King to slip back into the 616 universe.

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Balasco says,

"Two Siblings" (Wanda & Pietro)

"Force ALL of Reality to CHANGE"

............................................................................

Carol (Ms Marvel) says,

"She changed the World once huh?"

"Yes, ... but She Altered ALL of Reality"

NOT just the World, but ALL of Reality"

............................................................................

Again, more Bio confirmation:

............................................................................

Ms Marvel's mini-2008 Spring bio, (on panel) states,

"When an insane Scarlet Witch warped All Reality"

............................................................................

Indeed:

"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"

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So to this day, still right now,

Wanda's feat is recognized as affecting All of Marvel's Reality. (everything)

Originally posted by Bentley
Neither did DOV Spectre.

please keep up. DOV spectre did beat someone who wiped away mulitple realities and then set them all back.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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[B]Wanda warped the Omniverse!

............................................................................

With the line "No More mutants",

"Wanda managed to shift Reality causing cracks across ALL Realities.

Allowing the Shadow King to slip back into the 616 universe."

............................................................................

Balasco says,

"Two Siblings" (Wanda & Pietro)

"Force ALL of Reality to CHANGE"

............................................................................

Carol (Ms Marvel) says,

"She changed the World once huh?"

"Yes, ... but She Altered ALL of Reality"

NOT just the World, but ALL of Reality"

............................................................................

Again, more Bio confirmation:

............................................................................

Ms Marvel's mini-2008 Spring bio, (on panel) states,

"When an insane Scarlet Witch warped All Reality"

............................................................................

Indeed:

"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"

========================================

So to this day, still right now,

Wanda's feat is recognized as affecting All of Marvel's Reality. (everything) [/B]

her feat is great. but causing cracks and affecting all of reality is NOT wiping away all of reality and then recreating it. ok. thanks.

You nvr read HoM, did you?

Originally posted by llagrok
You nvr read HoM, did you?

actually i did. I bought the trade paper back months ago.

Originally posted by fangirl101
actually i did. I bought the trade paper back months ago.

Okay, attempt to discredit your argument failed.

Her changes were pretty big though, it's not like she changed people's hair colour or killed a single person.

4th age spawn

Originally posted by fangirl101

her feat is great. but causing cracks and affecting all of reality
is NOT wiping away all of reality and then recreating it. ok. thanks.

Wanda tore the Omniverse to pieces,
in a single swoop, from Otherworld then to ALL REALITIES simultaneously.

She then fixed it all with a thought (no more mutants)
simultaneously erasing the Mutant gene from 90% of the species
seemingly across ALL Timelines!

Originally posted by Mr Master
Since when did Mxy destroy the Multiverse all at once during World's Funnest?

I have the issue,
he went from Universe to Universe,
in fact, Batmite even stated in Gem World,
that 'most of the Multiverse was blown up' like two pages before the end.

In the real world? Concerning waves of water? Yea sure.

Not in comics,
especially concerning an overwhelming power
that [B]resembles a wave as it passes by a cosmic speed,
not that it is a "wave" literally.

dontgetit

rofl2 Same ol, same ol. [/B]

Originally posted by Mindset
And what feats does Phantom Stranger have?