Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
People are crying because it was sold to us as the second coming by Speilberg, who once again along with Lucas, screwed us.
Thats the exact thing that lucas was getting at before the film came out pretty much saying its not the second coming its just a movie
"When you do a movie like this, a sequel that's very, very anticipated, people anticipate ultimately that it's going to be the Second Coming," Lucas says. "And it's not. It's just a movie. Just like the other movies. You probably have fond memories of the other movies. But if you went back and looked at them, they might not hold up the same way your memory holds up."
Originally posted by queeq
9.5???? That´s rather extreme.
Oh get over it 😠
just because you was'nt a fan of the kingdom of the crystal skull your opinion is'nt the be all and end all on how bad it was.
True that that was said Kazenji, but Speilberg had said in promotional vids before that that he felt Indy was back.
Regardless of phraseology, I disagreed.
(Unless "Back" in movie terms qualifies as "Popped in for 15 mins before becoming a train wreck/laughing-stock-for-all-the-wrong-reasons so that Lebeouf can be franchised up".)
Alot of people were repelled by the movie, including Queeq hence his totally reasonable non-eye-to-eyeage on the 9.5 for KOTCS.
The playing on the very name of Indy is bad enough, when the actual Indy content was this lame.
Hmmm.. I liked Ford, he was the best thing about the film, so to me he still felt as Indy...
Maybe Spielberg should have rephrased: George is back.
Reading in the Making of Indiana Jones book, I get this weird old-George-new-George feeling. The choices he made then, his sense of judgement then made a lot of sense. Compared to now... it's odd. I think the Howard the Duck experience fried his brain or something.
LOL I suspect youre right..
The holiday special was third-party, but Howard had Lucas bang-to-rights there.
I thought Ford's 1st 20 mins were his best in this flick.
Maybe not his fault though.
The script was clearly written by a caravan full of Baboons who were only that morning given their first sheets of paper with some crayons.
Just another addage-prover regarding the "Good Actor/Bad Movie - Bad actor/Good movie" hypothesis maybe.
Apparantly Darabonts script has been leaked online somewhere.
Found this about it
The script was titled Indiana Jones And The City Of The Gods, and appeared on a few websites at the end of last week before being removed wholesale. However, much of the plot was said to already be present, with Area 51, a nuclear explosion and a lost city all already there.
And this from the indy wikipedia
Plot
Similar to the finished film, the crystal skulls were remains of aliens worshipped by South Americans, and Marion Ravenwood as Indy's love interest. However, their child is a 13-year old girl, and the villains are Nazis hiding in South America.
Wow... Darabont's script is around on the internet. And I just read it... There are quiet a few elements the same, but it's rather a different story. The Alien element is reduced overall in te film, the ending is like the one in the film now. No Mutt, no Indy's son. But it does ahve a much more complex enemy pallete: it includes Russians, the Peruvian president and army, an ex-nazi and the American government fater Jones on suspicion of being a Russian spy. And there, sides change quite a bit. So the action is more dynamic and focused much more on finding the City of the Gods. The skull serves much more as a McGuffin than in KOTCS. The humor's great.
Even the snake bit has a nice twist: Indy's overcome his fear of snakes until he get swallwed by a huge snake (animals are a lot bigger around the City of the GOds, including ants), he cuts himself free. Later he's afarid again of snakes, screaming when he sees the tiniest snake in his tent.
I think Darabont got it better than Koepp to be frank. But hey...
I think I know why Lucas didn't like it: no Area 51, less aliens (except at the beginning). But the action is better, Oxley's role is much smaller (he's in a cage and used by a rival archeaologist to find the City of the Gods).