HANCOCK(will smith) vs SUPERMAN(routh) vs HULK(eric bana)

Started by jrodslam10 pages

Originally posted by batdude123
Lulz.

And Hancock did... what, exactly to top that? I don't understand how anyone can think Hancock wins this one.

Uuumm. Did i say Hancock didd anything to top that feat? Nope. I said hes looking very impressive. And thats just from the trailers. The way he just halted the train in mis cho-chooo, tossed the whale like it was nothing, threw a kid up in the air then caught him while not breaking every bone in the kids body. I didnt say he wins, but hes looking highly impressive imo and may give Supes a run for his money. Possibly.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Uuumm. Did i say Hancock didd anything to top that feat? Nope. I said hes looking very impressive. And thats just from the trailers. The way he just halted the train in mis cho-chooo, tossed the whale like it was nothing, threw a kid up in the air then caught him while not breaking every bone in the kids body. I didnt say he wins, but hes looking highly impressive imo and may give Supes a run for his money. Possibly.

So this post didn't imply you think Hancock would win?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Hancock.

Most impressive thing Routh did way lift the kryptonite continent. So far, Hancock is looking very very impressive. Very.

I can see how that might not of been meant to say Hancock wins.

Oh please...

except for the part where he says "hancock" right in the beginning. its almost as if he's answering the question put forth by the tc! wait, thats EXACTLY what that was. its pretty obvious he's back peddling.

What?

Wait...Oh I missed the part where he says Hancock...Lol.

i was saying that in response to what dark-jaxx said batdude, you got your post in before mine though.

Oh.

Another advantage for hancock compared to superman maybe is kryptonite has no effect on hancock and he may have no weaknesses like kryptonite.

Yes, but in a fight (Hancock vs Superman), Hancock isnt going to have any K-nite is he? At least, thats what I think this topic is about.

I said may have no other weaknesses so that means that superman has a weakness, Hancock doesn't. 1 point for Hancock. i wasn't talking about the actual fight

Originally posted by pmb12
I said may have no other weaknesses so that means that superman has a weakness, Hancock doesn't. 1 point for Hancock. i wasn't talking about the actual fight

I see... but this thread is about the fight 😕

lol i know i was just pointing out an advantage, to be honest i honestly can't see any of them winning this fight, the fight would probably last a month before anyone of them begins to tire

Hey Does Hancock have superspeed? (Not just flight speed)

yeah i think, there was a apart were it seems he does in the trailer where he collides with the enemy but I cant be sure.

Originally posted by spetznaz
One more thing: The 'Bullet Test.'

Let me explain:

BULLET TEST NO. 1:
Superman (Routh): The guy was basically getting shot at with an AP Gattling Gun, and he basically shrugged off the entire fussilade like they were droplets of water. However, MORE IMPORTANTLY (when it comes to the 'Bullet Test' TM), he got a single bullet fired at him from a handgun, point blank range, at his eye! And the bullet, upon coming into contact with his cornea, simply got mashed up and fell down.
The guy was perfectly invulnerable, to the point that a slug cannot even TICKLE his eye in the least.

SUPERMAN (ROUTH) PASSES THE 'BULLET TEST.'

BULLET TEST NO. 2:
The Hulk (First movie): The Hulk horribly fails the 'Bullet Test.' Well, while he cannot be killed by bullets (many were fired at him, from personell weapons to miniguns in Comanche attack helicopters), the EFFECT of those bullets on him were easy to note.
For one, they definitely irritated him. He FELT them. They did not hurt him, but he felt them (compare and contrast with Routh getting shot in the eye and .....well, nothing!)
SECONDLY, the impact of the bullets on his skin left ripple marks. They were actually going in a bit before bouncing off (again, compare that effect on movie Hulk's skin with the effect of the bullet on Superman's eye).
Basically, while the Hulk can be said to be invulnerable to bullets, he is not at the same level as the Routh Superman (clearly).
I believe at one point in the movie one of the bad guys was trying to stick some drill thingimajig into the Hulk's eye when he was immobilized by the sticky-goo stuff.
He does not pass the 'Bullet Test' to the same level as Routh.

BULLET TEST NO. 3:
Then we have Hancock. Now, this is obviously being written before the movie comes out, so it is SOLELY based on the trailer.
What is apparent is that Hancock definitely passes the 'Bullet Test.' The only question is HOW WELL he passes it.
I think he does very well.
For one, there is a scene where he crash lands into a car with perps, and they shoot at him. The bullets ricochet off him, and strike two of the perps.
If you look at that shot in the trailer, you will realize that his sun-glasses have two holes in them (where the eyes should be). Now, that is only based on the trailer, but it does seem as if he passed the bullet-in-the-eye test.

CONCLUSION:
Routh's character definitely passes the 'Bullet Test.'
So does Will Smith's character.

The Hulk, on the other hand, fails (well ...technically fails, because even though he may not DIE from bullets, he is not breezing through them either pain free .....based on the first movie. So Hulk fans, I am NOT talking about comicbook Hulk).

Thus you can eliminate the Hulk based on the 'Bullet Test,' leaving Superman and Hancock.

Then this is where my first post picks up from (comparing the Routh movie with the Hancock trailer, which is somewhat unfair). However, so far, tossing a land-mass (be it a large island or a small continent) DEFINITELY trumps tossing a whale a mile-off into the sea.

Easily.

And that doesn't include the other powers that Superman brings to the fight that Hancock does not.
Hancock is basically a Black Adam/Captain Marvel character, who are basically Superman WITHOUT the full-array of powers (all they have is strength, speed, invulnerability and flight). The only reason people say that Black Adam and Captian Marvel can be a problem from Kal El is because their powers are magic based, otherwise they would be Superman-lite.

Hancock's powers, so far, are not magic based. Thus, he is basically Superman (and we don't know whether he is as strong as Routh's Superman, but let's assume he is in the ball park ....which may not be the case), but with only flight, strength and speed (again, even Iron Man can cause a sonic boom, but movie Superman is much faster than that). He does not have the other powers Superman would bring to the fight.

Anyways, in my opinion, the ranking would be Routh (Superman)-Will(Hancock) -Eric (Hulk), with the Hulk not even DESERVING to be in the fight (he is better of struggling against gamma-irradiated poodles), and Hancock being based on a trailer.

Either way, the Hancock movie will be super. It will show what Superman would be if he took lessons from Black Adam (and maybe also from Tony Stark in the alcohol department).

The movie Hulk (first movie) is better off fighting movie Iron Man than tangling against Routh Superman or Hancock. Either would simply kill him (with Hancock doing it in a spectacularly cool way)

Problems:

1. Hulk has regenerative abilities that is far beyond anything shown in favor of the other two. This is implied and can't really be shown onscreen.

2. Hulk becomes just as strong as those two and always is potentially stronger.

So I'd say Hulk is just slightly less durable than the others but clearly Hulk>>>>Routh and Hancock in regen and endurance. You can't dismiss regeration and endurance when it comes to physical toughness.
When Routh and Hancock get hurt, they will be hurt - Hulk laughs off his pain in seconds and gets more powerful. Hulk would feel pain earlier but what does it matter if his pain=rage=regen+more destructive power afterward?

BTW, Hancock looks good so far, and whats funny is that the Hancock trailer had more action and Superman abilites shown than the entire Superman returns movie.

By default I think Supes(Routh) ftw

after seeing the newest trailer for hancock i realized that hancock shares
a lot of things with the sentry(robert reynolds);

-receives power's from laboratory experimentation.

-superman-like abilities.

-various insecurities and hangups.

-a fall from grace.

-chose to stay away from "his duties" until appointed by top brass.

imo a sentry film can't be made anytime soon due to the similarities.

Routh beats them in the strength department but in the cool area Hancock stomps.