Originally posted by Scythewell, I don't do either. And I'm not a stereotype 'tree hugger'. I'm not syaing I outright disagree with hunting, I'm saying I don't understand why a so called 'civilised' human would want to kill something for enjoyment. It's a very bloodthirsty mentality.
Yes, it's true, tree huggers love this sort of bull, however there are many people who hunt to get by in life, they also fish. Isn't fishing cruel also then? All those innocent fish....
Originally posted by ScytheDoing it to survive is different, I already covered that.
Fishing is a sport, guns and ammo are sold in sporting good stores, it's considered a sport. Some do it for trophies, others do it to eat and survive and isn't it a sport in England?
They sell tents and toilet paper in sporting goods stores too, but crapping and camping isnt a sport.
Doing it for trophies is not a sport, it's needless killing of an innocent animal.
I aint from England.
Originally posted by The Grey Fox
well, I don't do either. And I'm not a stereotype 'tree hugger'. I'm not syaing I outright disagree with hunting, I'm saying I don't understand why a so called 'civilised' human would want to kill something for enjoyment. It's a very bloodthirsty mentality.
Guess it all dates back to the days of cavemen wanting to show they're alpha males, us humans at times need something to show our abilities as men.
Back in olden days the English used to go out on fox hunts, and it's like, wtf? You can't eat a fox....
However, for the poor family in Alaska who make their living off fish and the natives of other countries who rely on hunting, it isn't wrong.
Originally posted by ScythePeople who do it for a living are doing it to survive, as I said, thats a different story.
Guess it all dates back to the days of cavemen wanting to show they're alpha males, us humans at times need something to show our abilities as men.Back in olden days the English used to go out on fox hunts, and it's like, wtf? You can't eat a fox....
However, for the poor family in Alaska who make their living off fish and the natives of other countries who rely on hunting, it isn't wrong.
Yeah, you can eat a fox if you are hungry enough.
Cavemen had no stores to go to, therefore they had to kill to survive.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Doing it to survive is different, I already covered that.They sell tents and toilet paper in sporting goods stores too, but crapping and camping isnt a sport.
Doing it for trophies is not a sport, it's needless killing of an innocent animal.
Japan has certain game shows where people have to hold in pooping to win money, that's sort of a sport.
Also, hunting to survive is not a sport, hunting for no personal gain is a sport, it's what civilization labeled it, and that's how things are. Talk to the NRA about this.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I aint from England.
I never said you were...
Originally posted by ScytheI think a better way to show we're 'men' is by actually doing something worthwhile...
Guess it all dates back to the days of cavemen wanting to show they're alpha males, us humans at times need something to show our abilities as men.Back in olden days the English used to go out on fox hunts, and it's like, wtf? You can't eat a fox....
However, for the poor family in Alaska who make their living off fish and the natives of other countries who rely on hunting, it isn't wrong.
And middle class English people still go fox hunting, but it's generally been banned here.
Originally posted by ScytheHunting is never a sport. Hunting to survive is a necessity.
Japan has certain game shows where people have to hold in pooping to win money, that's sort of a sport.Also, hunting to survive is not a sport, hunting for no personal gain is a sport, it's what civilization labeled it, and that's how things are. Talk to the NRA about this.
I never said you were...
I would lose horribly on that game show, BTW.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Cavemen had no stores to go to, therefore they had to kill to survive.
You're missing the point. I meant certain feelings of machismo has to be conveyed. Cavemen used to hunt, the Greeks would wrestle and now hunting and wrestling are both sports that we don't need, but are there to show our place at the top of the food chain.
Originally posted by Scythewhat sports are "needed" then? share with us, Mr. Cosell.
You're missing the point. I meant certain feelings of machismo has to be conveyed. Cavemen used to hunt, the Greeks would wrestle and now hunting and wrestling are both sports that we don't need, but are there to show our place at the top of the food chain.
Originally posted by The Grey Fox
I think a better way to show we're 'men' is by actually doing something worthwhile...
Obviously, there's plenty, but society won't change.
Originally posted by The Grey Fox
And middle class English people still go fox hunting, but it's generally been banned here.
That's just stupid, but it's still a sport to them.
Originally posted by ScytheI think in it's natural habitat, a tiger is most certainly above us in the food chain.
You're missing the point. I meant certain feelings of machismo has to be conveyed. Cavemen used to hunt, the Greeks would wrestle and now hunting and wrestling are both sports that we don't need, but are there to show our place at the top of the food chain.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you still haven't proven that hunting is a sport.
How would I go about proving that if you're not going to believe it? It's just favorited as a sport, a competition.
http://www.thenazareneway.com/vegetarian/hunting_the_sport_of_killing.htm
Originally posted by MairuzuI ****ing love Mr. Rogers
Wtf.......Mr. Rogers was in Casper the movie????
Originally posted by ScytheHumans prize themselves over everything, and it's slowly pushing ourselves and everything else closer to extinction. IMO, at least.
Tigers have not killed as much as humans. Humans kill the planet, the trees, the animals and eachother, that's deep.
Originally posted by ScytheYou can link away all day, knock yourself out, but bottom line is it is NOT a sport.
How would I go about proving that if you're not going to believe it? It's just favorited as a sport, a competition.http://www.thenazareneway.com/vegetarian/hunting_the_sport_of_killing.htm
Just because some people do it and think of it as a sport doesnt in fact make it a sport.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You can link away all day, knock yourself out, but bottom line is it is NOT a sport.Just because some people do it and think of it as a sport doesnt in fact make it a sport.
That's not true, national rulings have recognized it as a sport, otherwise associations such as these wouldn't exist.