Earlier Bruce says no one is beyond saving, but he soon learns thats not the case, Ra's convinced him, and he won.
But what didn't kill Bruce, made him stronger, this Batman might not be crazy enough to be perfect, but he is smart enough to change.
"Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up."
My point is, Batman is the greatest Super-Hero, whether it be Nolan's or not.
I say this because his basic principal is that you can be a hero without super powers, any man can stick up for himself, Superman teaches that you have to have powers, with his very decision not to give up his own.
BLAM Superman fanboys, in yo face!!!
Originally posted by Mr Parker
hmmm,that would be a good point IF not for the title of this thread.Hey Combat Guru,I have heard your thoughts on the look of the joker which I really like,any chance i could get you to post them on my thread?
Quit bugging me about it ok?
I got nothing to say except that I don't like it.
Originally posted by Combat_Guru
My point is, Batman is the greatest Super-Hero, whether it be Nolan's or not.I say this because his basic principal is that you can be a hero without super powers, any man can stick up for himself, Superman teaches that you have to have powers, with his very decision not to give up his own.
BLAM Superman fanboys, in yo face!!!
Umm...when did Superman ever implied that? He himself has done things even without the use of his powers so what's your point?
Originally posted by Combat_Guru
My point is, Batman is the greatest Super-Hero, whether it be Nolan's or not.I say this because his basic principal is that you can be a hero without super powers, any man can stick up for himself, Superman teaches that you have to have powers, with his very decision not to give up his own.
BLAM Superman fanboys, in yo face!!!
Note: Batman is my favorite comic character, so this is NOT a knock at Batman...
Oh really? If Batman's basic principal is to tell you that you can be your own hero, how come every time there's a mugging, it's always Batman that has to save the people who could at least TRY to fend for themselves? I think Catwoman put it best with this line:
"You're always waiting for Batman to save you..."
If teaching someone to fend for themselves is the quality of the best hero, then Paul Kersey (Charles Bronson's character in "Death Wish"😉 is the best hero... He inspired all of New York City to fend for themselves and take the streets back from the muggers and rapists that plagued them... But he kills people, so I guess that he isn't allowed in the contest...
Superman is the best hero, period... He is the most honest, true good guy that ever existed in comic books...
imo, this is my list of "bests" (based on a set of criteria I chose myself)... (After Supes, no particular order)
1. Superman (protects people even when they hate him)
2. Paul Kersey (he inspired the population to fight back against crime)
3. Spider-Man (he also inspires people to fight back in his 1st movie)
4. Burton's Batman (he protects Gotham, despite his methods)
5. Nolan's Batman (he's a hypocrite, but he protects Gotham)
Originally posted by Bat Dude
Note: Batman is my favorite comic character, so this is NOT a knock at Batman...Oh really? If Batman's basic principal is to tell you that you can be your own hero, how come every time there's a mugging, it's always Batman that has to save the people who could at least TRY to fend for themselves? I think Catwoman put it best with this line:
"You're always waiting for Batman to save you..."
If teaching someone to fend for themselves is the quality of the best hero, then Paul Kersey (Charles Bronson's character in "Death Wish"😉 is the best hero... He inspired all of New York City to fend for themselves and take the streets back from the muggers and rapists that plagued them... But he kills people, so I guess that he isn't allowed in the contest...
Superman is the best hero, period... He is the most honest, true good guy that ever existed in comic books...
imo, this is my list of "bests" (based on a set of criteria I chose myself)... (After Supes, no particular order)
1. Superman (protects people even when they hate him)
2. Paul Kersey (he inspired the population to fight back against crime)
3. Spider-Man (he also inspires people to fight back in his 1st movie)
4. Burton's Batman (he protects Gotham, despite his methods)
5. Nolan's Batman (he's a hypocrite, but he protects Gotham)
Batman is a hero without super powers, if thats not teaching people to use what they have to overcome tyranny, instead of what they want, then I don't know what is.
Superman has a pricipal, no matter what some comic books write, that pricipal is that he is a dominant force placed on this Earth to protect us.
And in that case, Batman is a more genuine hero, is he not?
I'll have to admit I don't like the idea of God, but I love the idea of Jesus Christ, because Jesus Christ was willing to feel and try, and God was not.
yeah none of the Batman movies really capture the true essence of Batman.Batman Begins comes the closest but its not entirely faithful to his character either because yeah he saves the joker all the time and he is his arch enemy.Hopefully in the next film, Batman will realise that no matter how evil they are,that he will start doing that in the next film.If he does,then it can be all forgotten about since you can strike it up to him just starting out and learning.
Originally posted by Mairuzu
He doesn't even know the joker yet (in this movie)Ras was very dangerous
Originally posted by Combat_Guru
My point is, Batman is the greatest Super-Hero, whether it be Nolan's or not.I say this because his basic principal is that [B]you can be a hero without super powers
, any man can stick up for himself, Superman teaches that you have to have powers, with his very decision not to give up his own.BLAM Superman fanboys, in yo face!!! [/B]
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