Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Because if we find life on another planet, then the fundamentalist idea that life is unique to Earth is proved wrong. They are beginning to wiggle, just in case.
They'll just revamp (yet again) and say "Jesus-God created it/them too". It certainly wouldn't be an obstacle.
Remember, when it doubt or can't think of something logical, always fall back on the trusty "God works in mysterious ways" line.
Originally posted by Robtard
They'll just revamp (yet again) and say "Jesus-God created it/them too". It certainly wouldn't be an obstacle.Remember, when it doubt or can't think of something logical, always fall back on the trusty "God works in mysterious ways" line.
Luckily, Mormons have believed that life has been on other planets for over 150 years. 😊
We'll be proved....right? 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Outbound
We're on the same page, but I think I'm confusing it a bit, I cant think of the right words right now to explain.What you said is where I was going with it, it can be found anywhere. I said 'common' in terms of bacterial survival, not normal living organism survival. It's under your lounge, in the sink, on ice in Antarctica, so finding it on Mars is kind of a 'we know theres a high chance its there, just not sure where exactly' idea. I just don't find it as interesting because of the fact it probably actually exists on Mars if they have found water sources. To me, its about as exciting as bringing back a rock from the moon, its made from the same compounds, under the same conditions, so it's basically just a souvenir.
Im not hoping for aliens or any of that sci fi crap, just something a bit more interesting than same old, same old bacteria.
that's the point though. Bacteria is common on Earth. It is the most common lifeform. To find it on another planet may be mundane to you but it means that other planets are not unlike Earth and do have life. Say we find bacteria on Mars.....then later on Europa or Titan. Well, it then seems that life exists in a great deal of places.......under different conditions. We know how life evolved here, this opens up the possibilities of evolved life in the past or future not only in those places but anywhere in the universe.
Even if it's the same ol' bacteria we have here on Earth, where it's found and under what conditions is what is important. Beginning with the same DNA, the conditons of different ecosystems allowing or disallowing different mutations to flourish over millions of years is the difference between a human being and a blue whale.
If bacteria is found on another celestial body vastly different than our own it opens up the door for finding vastly different advanced life in our universe. Perhaps finding bacteria on Mars means that advanced life will exist there in a billion years. Perhaps it means that advanced life existed there a billion years ago. The same can be said about any place we find bacteria. The more places we find bacteria, the greater the chance is that the advanced life won't be a billion years in the past or a billion years in the future but right now.
my personal speculation: we will find bacteria on Mars. we will find atleast bacteria if not simple-complex multi-celled life under Europa's ice. Life is abundant in our universe. Anywhere it can exist, even under the most harsh conditions, it does. We will eventually find extra-solar planets where the conditions are not harsh enough to prevent life from flourishing and evolving.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Luckily, Mormons have believed that life has been on other planets for over 150 years. 😊We'll be proved....right? 😖hifty:
The book of Mormon is often rewritten, if you're able to find an older book, which is highly unlikely, since the LDS Church buys and destroys older versions once something has been added or deleted, you'd see.
You will, but it will be written after the fact.
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Anyhow, ED made a good point, bacteria is a start and could be the start of greater life to come.
Cathlics were recently told that life on other planets does not effecct their religion. Catholic observatories have been searching for life in space for years, much along the lines of the SETI program.
As for Phoenix being immobile, it strikes me as a needless step backwards. Yes, there are mobile craft on Mars (I don't know if they're still working) but how much harder would it have been to slap some wheels on this thing and hook it up to On-Star? It's landed in a place that is more likely to have more of what NASA is looking for, and it's just going to sit there analyzing the same 10 sq yards of dirt? That just strikes me as asinine. Billions of dollars to go all that way and just sit there until we pull the plug?
Originally posted by Devil King
Cathlics were recently told that life on other planets does not effecct their religion. Catholic observatories have been searching for life in space for years, much along the lines of the SETI program.As for Phoenix being immobile, it strikes me as a needless step backwards. Yes, there are mobile craft on Mars (I don't know if they're still working) but how much harder would it have been to slap some wheels on this thing and hook it up to On-Star? It's landed in a place that is more likely to have more of what NASA is looking for, and it's just going to sit there analyzing the same 10 sq yards of dirt? That just strikes me as asinine. Billions of dollars to go all that way and just sit there until we pull the plug?
The two other rovers are still working, but they are beginning to show their age.
This lander is not a rover because it is testing for a future mission that will land, just like this one, and gather samples, then return them to Earth inside a rocket. You have to have a stable and stationary platform to do that.
Originally posted by Devil King
And if this particual locale is not sufficient? Should we send another billion dollar device to check a spot a mile away?
The plan is to send another rover to find life. If they find life, then a lander will gather the sample and return it to Earth.
If you go to the NASA web site and read up on future missions, you will know for yourself.