Star Wars plug in INDY 4!

The very nemesis for ST then.

Hah yeah Indeed. The was nothing appropriate or righteous about that Director/Scriptwriter as a source of inflictions/retributions though.

Nope...

It was poop made reality.

Suprising how most ST movies are mediocre.

The odd number curse. (That was broken with Nemesis' release)

2, 4, 6, 8, were awesome.
2 and 6 especially.

1..slow..more like an extended episode of the original..better in directors cut as avaliable now.

3. Yeah mediocre.

5. WTF. Whislt often misunderstood it had many silly things that contradicted the known ST tech/universe.

7. Generations was where it stated to reek of danger.

9. Insurrection. Totally mediocre. Could have been a TNG filler episode and Data got on all our t!ts.

10. Not an odd number, but it was the 1st even numbered movie to be, in fact, shit.

11. New star trek. Pretty good. and more proof that the curse has if not ended, reversed.

2. Wrath of Khan
4. Voyage Home Right?
6. Undiscovered Country - soso IMHO
8. First Contact - very good
11. Loved that...

Thats right. VH is number IV.

I loved Undiscovered country. It was flawed a little, but I found it very enjoyable. Well written, well cast, plotted, acted and I though directed. So did Lucas too, I think, as ILM's Praxis moon explosion effect made it into the deathstar explosions in the special editions and all subsequent versions although its a minor technical point..

St as study material for SW... hehhehe... interesting.

Well they studied BattleStar Galactica and other stuff too.

The Hoth thing came about after Dykstra and co sussed out how to matte over bright snow with minimised lines, and GL was already pissed at them for doing lots of SWesque effects for Larson's series, so I guess he ripped off the episode "Gun on Ice Planet Zero" in retaliation.

Yes, I know about that. Competition, competition.

Lucas lost that competition judging by the comparative releases of SW and BSG this last decade.

I guess so... I never saw the new BSG, well snippets.

Its really really good.

Another must see. Avoid all spoilers about it, and start at the pilot miniseries 2 parter. That sets you up well for the beginning of the actual series.

Okay... but there are a lot of series by now, aren't there?

Not really. Most are generic formulaic, hackish, cookie cutter shite that doesn't challenge dramtically, conceptually, creatively, intellectually in any way. "But hey the actors are modelish and trendy! Hey lets masturbate ourselves to death over their banal shiny sterility afely, as we dont want anything that might affect our advertising sales!!!" seems to be the edict of many networks.

LOST
Breaking Bad
BSG
Classic ST:TNG
Band Of Brothers
The Sopranos
The Walking Dead
Married With Children
The X files

Now THOSE are/were shows!!!! 😛

No, I meant BSG series... What are they up to: 5 or 6 by now?

I think it was 5 seasons then it ended.

Then you had Caprica (Prequel series that wasn't all that)
set like 40 odd years before pilot of BSG.

And they are doing another one based on Adama's early days in the previous cylon war.

Oh dear.... they really got it going...

Yeah.

BSG was gold.

The new series sounds great too.